I think Keine has the best hat. It's still darn silly though.

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We used to have writing advice threads, but most 'advice' is either unwanted or unapplicable, so let's not do that anymore. Instead, let's just have a general thread where we can talk about the process and the mindset of writing. Pretty much anything goes as long as it's about writing; given that this is THP, it should generally pertain to writing on THP and about Touhou, though.

N.B. This isn't the place for pitching story ideas. If you have a concept for a story that you want to throw out, see >>16317 for that. However, asking for help with developing an idea and discussion thereof is fine.
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>>17065
Mm; circular.

Then I'm well and truly out. All I can appeal to is the possibility of broader interests; but I don't think I can convince you of it in a satisfactory way. I can only say that something has got to give for it to work out, and that that thing may well be the monotropism.
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I still don't even really get what you're talking about.

Look, I just want to write Touhou fiction at the end of the day. I can't change much about what I'm interested and not interested in.
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Anyone have some recommendations for stories involving Touhou fisticuffs? Just realized I haven't seen a no-holds-barred, over-the-top action sequence since the dramatic conclusion of Gensokyoland Saga.

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https://thp.reisen/.well-known/matrix/server points to matrix.thp.reisen:8448 and 8448 is not proxying matrix API, but matrix.thp.reisen:443 does. You probably want to correct your well-known endpoint so it would to point to matrix.thp.reisen:443, or it would be difficult for other servers to successfully communicate with yours. https://federationtester.matrix.org/#thp.reisen can be used to test correctness of configuration.
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We purposely don't federate.
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As mentioned, federation is disabled on purpose. That file is pretty much there as a placeholder.

Thanks anyways for your post.

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So, if it hasn't been already been made clear from other comments I've made, I really enjoy talking about writing. Both in terms of specifically talking about my own work, talking about other works I've read, and talking about the writing process as a whole. And while there is a writing channel on the discord for it, I feel like it's a shame to have such discussion lost to the distant archives of a distant channel, so here's a thread for it.

Anyway, I'm going to start with my general thesis on storytelling as a whole.

Stories are about conflict.

And of this conflict, the vast majority of this conflict is character vs character. Now, most isn't all; you can have conflict with outside, impersonal forces (whether animals, the environment, or simply a hard task they're trying to finish), and also internal conflict, where someone's almost at war with themself over a difficult decision, involving multiple things they really do (or don't) want. And these are also great things to have with a story, and can work perfectly well, they're just harder (at least for me) to set up and execute than character vs character conflict. So I'm going to focus on that.

Now, when it comes to conflict between characters, setting it up ties into how I approach characterization in the first place. Every character, in every scene, should have some goal they're working towards. And I don't mean a grand goal like "Resolve the incident" or "Romance <insert touhou here>", I mean a short-term goal that ties into those larger goals. Conflict comes from having multiple characters with different goals, each pushing for what they want. Even if characters are on the same side in the context of the larger story, if their immediate goals are different, you still get conflict. As a bonus, if you understand what a character's goals are, it becomes a lot easier to write their actions.

Another nice thing is that this conflict-driven model of storytelling can work for any type of story, from dramatic to romance to slice of life. Marisa could be fighting
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>Your standard dramatic adventure story draws its tension and drama from fear of the protagonist failing.
This was a fairly important thing to make explicit, I think. Oftentimes it's assumed that this is the only way a reader may be kept interested, and that simply isn't true. In fact I tend to check out of stories which sustain themselves primarily around the teasing of "stakes"; that is, bad outcomes that must simply be avoided; conversely, I tend to welcome stories that feature complex and proactive "play", or that effectively establish a world of moving parts outside the myopia of the "central conflict", even if it might undermine the plausibility of the "stakes".

It's interesting that you mention the Lord of the Rings, because I seem to have enjoyed it for quite the contrary reasons when I first read it a few years ago. As menacing as the War of the Ring may have been, it ultimately struck me as a last gasp of sorts; immense in the present moment but itself dwarfed by greater strokes of history long past; and it was this tremendous tapestry of grandeur and decline everywhere in the background - some of it even, like Tom Bombadil, still infamously blithe - that gave the necessary dignity to this world that was to be placed under threat. And though, again contrarily, I'm typically unmoved by "character stories", I found Theoden in particular among the most compelling that I've ever read; serving almost as a microcosm of the books as a whole.

Maybe it's telling that the poem that sticks out most in my mind is rather the Rohirric, nearly identical in its opening line with its Old English inspiration:

>Where now the horse and the rider?
>Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago?

Both are elegies; foregone conclusions, in other words. Yet they compel m
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>It's interesting that you mention the Lord of the Rings, because I seem to have enjoyed it for quite the contrary reasons when I first read it a few years ago. As menacing as the War of the Ring may have been, it ultimately struck me as a last gasp of sorts; immense in the present moment but itself dwarfed by greater strokes of history long past; and it was this tremendous tapestry of grandeur and decline everywhere in the background - some of it even, like Tom Bombadil, still infamously blithe - that gave the necessary dignity to this world that was to be placed under threat.

This is actually another point I loved about Lord of the Rings. The fact that in-universe, this isn't even the greatest threat, it's just a shadow compared to past threats, makes the universe seem even bigger. The way the elves are portrayed as wonderful, fair, and yet simultaneously so far diminished from what they used to be... Middle Earth is full of these points of context, and I think it really adds to the world. For those less familiar:

-) Most of the elves have already gone West, and those that remain are only really hanging on because of the three rings. No matter how the third age ends, the time of the elves goes with it. When the books finish and the third age ends, the bearers of the three rings of the elves sail west. Which, not coincidentally, include the leaders of both Rivendell and Lothlorien.

-) Gondor used to be a much larger nation, with the capital of Osgilath and two towers. One of those towers was captured by Mordor, and Osgilath is now a ruin and a battleground. Now it's a much smaller nation centered around Minas Tirith. On a similar note, Rohan actually used to be part of Gondor, but they gave the land away because they couldn't politically keep hold of it, and better to have it as an ally nation than conquered by barbarians.

-) The ents are also in decline. They were never many, they had not increased, and they straight up lost the ent-wives, so barring a major change, there's never going to be any more of them.
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Let's talk a little about characterization. This is an important topic, simply because people are willing to forgive the plot meandering around if they like the characters involved. But if people dislike or worse, don't care about your characters, it doesn't matter how interesting the plot might be, few readers will stick around to see it through. In short, the vast majority and stories live and die by their characterization.

There's a lot that goes into making a character. I think you can roughly divide the details of character creation into five sections: Background, personality, goals, appearance, and abilities.

It's important to note that while these are all separate categories, they're also all interconnected. To take a simple (if cliche) example, a tragedy in someone's past (background) could very well have given them a scar (appearance), lingering trauma (personality), landed them in a wheelchair (abilities), and given them a strong desire for revenge (goals). This doesn't need to be the case for every detail, obviously. If you decide your character should have freckles, the freckles don't need an origin story! And a lot of times these connections never get explored on-screen. The main character will probably get all of his stuff pulled into the light, but there just isn't time to explore why your twelfth side character's childhood trauma made him hate clowns and always sleep with a nightlight.

(It's worth noting that Worm is a good example of this interplay. Part of the setting is that in order to get superpowers, you have to have some terrible tragedy, called a trigger event, in your backstory, and your powers depend in large part on the nature of your trigger event, addressing the cause in sort of a monkey's paw fashion. For instance, one kid's father was dying of cancer, and he desperately wanted a little more time with him, so he got the power to temporarily freeze objects in time. As such, by the nature of the setting, most of the characters have that connection between their powers, background, appearance (through their hero/villain costume) and often their personality as
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I don't usually want to draw a lot of attention to myself, but that can't be helped in this instance, so I put on my name and trip and everything.

As it says on the tin, I'm primarily propping this thread up to promote a personal site of mine dedicated at least in part to talking about matters related to THP. Now, before you run away, this isn't meant to be a bunch of opinion pieces from some doofus who happens to be a janitor. Some who have been around might have heard me talking about a project to document THP for the benefit of newbies and otherwise. Well, this is where that project has ended up.

That's why the first post I want to present publicly is dedicated to a very important topic for the health of the site: tagging. You might have noticed that a lot of stories in the Story List are missing tags. There is a solution to this, but I can't promise it's a trivial one. Still, it's important that we get as many people as possible contributing to this cause, so I took the liberty of writing out a little guide to how tagging works in a rough fashion. I've also tried to explain a little bit of the rationale behind why tagging is important for the site. Check it out at the link below.

https://theonecalledmask.neocities.org/posts/2022-01-17-tagging.html

I will be periodically posting entries like this for the benefit of the community. There might also be occasional opinion pieces for the morbidly curious. Rather than trying to integrate comments or such Web 2.0 inanity, I'd prefer to use this thread for discussion and feedback. Feel free to tell me if I've got my facts mixed up or whatever. If there's something more private to discuss, find me on Discord or send an e-mail to the address on the front page of my site.
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You can't legislate good behaviour, but you can have reasonable rules-of-thumb. I had a few thoughts about things in our outer communities, so I decided to share some of those.

N.B. This shouldn't be taken as a do-or-die pronouncement by moderation. Just take it all into consideration and otherwise continue acting like a decent human being, okay?

https://www.tekitou.moe/posts/2023-03-31-ontopic.html
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Did you know THP had a birthday yesterday? Happy fifteenth, THP. I'm sorry I couldn't do anything.

Anyway, I started this post a while back and meant it to be something of a long 'user's manual' sort of thing, but that got pretty tiresome. I ended up retooling it to be a lot more concise, mostly because I didn't feel it needed to instruct as much as bring attention to things. With any luck, I'll have brought some previously unnoticed things to someone's attention.

https://www.tekitou.moe/posts/2023-04-02-keepingup.html
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Here's a quick little piece about a long-time daydream of mine. It's idealistic and perhaps unfeasible. Hell, maybe impossible. I'd still like to see it happen someday.

https://www.tekitou.moe/posts/2023-04-18-tuhupike.html

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Let this post mark the inaugural session of the THP Book Club! For those of you living Underground where news comes slow, slurred, and shōchū-soaked, or up high on the gentle Moon where it hardly ever comes at all, this is an idea piloted by a member of our very own community here at Tea Haitch Pee dot moé, and buoyed into reality on the updrafts of your (yes, your!) participation. The incipiatory discussion can be found in this blog post here >>16758, as well as in the Site Events Discussion Thread from roughly here >>16759 onwards; but just to reiterate, we'll be reading through some of the older stories on the site, one bit at a time and week over week, sharing our thoughts and impressions as we go along together. Our hope is to lend forth a little light to stories that are somewhat shaded from the selective spotlights of mention, as well as to cultivate a climate of discussion and dialogue, by concentrating here what might otherwise
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So, as a writer, I personally love write-ins, as they're a sign of viewer interactions. Granted, I haven't had anything I'd consider a particularly silly or unwarranted write-in, so I might be a bit biased. I have had a few that have been fairly off-the-rails, but they've still been legitimately good (or at least reasonable) ideas based off of the information available at the time.

As far as writer interaction with the readers go, that's tricky. See, the thing is, I actually love talking about my story. I could easily throw several paragraphs in almost per update about what might have happened, or could have happened, or my thoughts on something. But I don't. I'll throw stuff in as an end-of-part coda, perhaps, but I fear to say too much.

Two reasons for this. The first is that I don't want to bias the readers with my personal commentary. Author's notes are fun, but the story must stand on its own without them. If someone who doesn't read any of the notes about what I intended comes to a completely different interpretation of the characters than what I intended, then I've screwed up as a writer, and that's a real risk if I keep outright telling the viewers what I intended after each update.

The second comes down to vanity. There was a previous community I wrote in where I got in trouble for self-advertisement, and I had a bit of a rant about how my story wasn't getting the attention it deserved compared to other, worse stories. It's not something I'm proud of, and pretty much ended my involvement in that community, as well as the story I'd been writing at the time. (Which is honestly a shame, as I wouldn't mind finishing or maybe rebooting that some day.) Because of that, I try to take a hands-off approach to commenting. It's easier for me to avoid attention seeking if I minimize my interaction outside of the updates. Or, as is increasingly the case these days, apologizing for updates being late. Alas.

Speaking of apologies, I'm one of the anons who floated the idea of participating and never did anything. So... sorry about that, I've just been busy lately. Even finding time t
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>If someone who doesn't read any of the notes about what I intended comes to a completely different interpretation of the characters than what I intended, then I've screwed up as a writer
I mean, that's going to happen no matter how much footwork you put into stage managing reader perception of things. You can outright directly tell people that things are one way or another, yet they'll still come to head-scratching conclusions based on inherent biases or whatever. I've had it happen time and again in my own writing to the point that I long gave up trying to correct people. Dunno, though. Maybe it depends how much investment people have in your story. Nobody around here really has the same experience writing, for better or worse.

As to actual book club matter, well, no real need for apologies. There was hardly a call for strong commitment. The pacing that so annoyed certain people was chosen with the assumption that people would probably fall in and out. If things go on and you happen to only find time to get involved every once in a while, that's fine enough.
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Very belated in getting my thoughts in.

>>16920
>Did the story make you feel anything?
Hesitation, mostly, or a sense of "waiting for the other shoe to drop". I get the feeling in the end that it was mainly supposed to be a fun adventure focusing on personalities rubbing off on each other and which wouldn't get super into it, but it really was hard to tell because I still felt like that could have changed at any moment.

>What did you think of the writing style?
I think the author is a fair hand at scene-setting and has a good sense for personality as external affect, but could probably stand to get a little deeper into a character's psyche, past, and whatnot in order to get them to really stand out from the page as fully-developed people. Of course, I haven't seen them write any characters in extremis, so maybe they were simply keeping it up their sleeve, but the keystones-and-chicken-twine analogy from earlier still strikes me as salient.

>Was there any passages that stood out to you?
Hobo silence

>Would you recommend this story?
I don't think I could, in good conscience; but then again I pretty much have to have liked something nearly unreservedly in order to be able to recommend it to anyone else without a whole bunch of caveating. Besides, it just didn't get far enough.

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Getting a jump on this for various reasons. Obviously, Nanowrimo doesn't start until 01 November and ends 30 November. What time? Doesn't matter, just as long as it's November in your timezone.

But, for the newcomers and slow-comers, what is Nanowrimo? For THP purposes, Nanowrimo is when we spend the entire month of November trying to either write thirty (30) updates OR thirty-thousand words total. This can be and often is taken to mean daily updates, but it doesn't matter how you get there. That's just the goal.

You don't even have to write a new story for this; you can enter an ongoing story if you want.

Why do this? Personal satisfaction and community engagement. If you want a prize, I dunno what to tell you; we tried that before. Badger someone into giving you one if you so desire.

Other than the above-stated goals, there aren't any rules as such. It would be nice if people who are participating indicated in this thread that they are doing so. Nothing fancy, just something like:

I'm participating in Nanowrimo. This is my story:
>>/[board]/[post]

It would be helpful for following anyone participating, and I imagine that would be desirable for those writers.

Either way, I hope folks do give it a go. It doesn't cost anything to try, and any value in success or failure is only what you ascribe to it.
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Looking forward to the eventual /at/ spinoff, Lust Market.
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Is that anything like Lust Bees, the porn companion to Lost Bees?
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When the Last Bee is gone, and the Lost Market fades...

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Ladies, gentlemen, and all in between,

Many a time, (for a long time), has it been debated among our peers in the Touhou community to appraise and rate each and every hat in the series, but I ask,
"what about those who cannot qualify, those who do not wear hats?"

Many a time, (for a long time), they have been left alone, cold, hatless, and double–crossed for something beyond their control.

I daresay it is time to do something about it!
With your cooperation, we will determine the best hatlessness in the Touhou Project.

"How?" you might be thinking. Fret not! It is easy:
You shall choose a candidate who does not wear a hat (the best picks have never worn a hat*, unlike Udongein, for example) and explain how they are the best at being hatless.
To be more specific, tell us why this character is better off without a hat, and how wearing one would only weaken them, whether it be by design, or presence, or some other characteristic they would stand to lose.

Godspeed all, and have a jolly day!


*For those who's hattedness is ambiguous, be brave and make the best case you can. All will be scrutinized, and the hatted shall be shamed.
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>>16660 here.

Spontaneous manifestation of head ornamentation for medical purposes shouldn't count, I'd think. It's not part of their normal attire, it's just there for safety.

In other news, of the true hatless 2hus not yet discussed, I think Kaguya has a pretty good shot of dethroning the current leader.

Kaguya doesn't wear a hat, and doesn't need to. She has her own personal doctor in case she ever gets sunburned, she doesn't get much sun in the first place, and if she got a hat she'd stop having a character design in eternal stasis. Plus, Mokou has a very high hat score, and those two would obviously be on opposite sides of the scale.
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>>16666

Not to be needlessly contrarian, but I cannot accept 'medical reasons' as a valid explanation for this phenomena. A vast number of post-battle band-aid application are placed in strange places such as over the clothes/hair. Meanwhile scuff marks, bruises, and other clear indicators of fisticuffs remain uncovered and untreated.

I can only assume that the bizarre ritual of increasing a defeated opponent's hat/accessory score is meant as a show of dominance.
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Since the old thread that was stickied at one point is seemingly just gone, here's a shiny new one to be largely disused in favour of shitposting on the Discord for talking over neato ideas involving 2hus that could be put into prose.

I look forward to the odd newcomer excitedly posting their 2hu x [insert flavour-of-the-month game here] crossover idea. Or I guess folks could seriously discuss ideas, too. Whatever y'all want. Anyway, doors are wide open, so come on through.
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Odd newcomer here, swinging in hard with something that isn't 2hu x [insert flavor-of-the-month game here], this has been bouncing around in my head since I started playing touhou

Anon wakes up in the middle of a forest with amnesia. They realize they have with them a big binder chock-full of pages written in by their past self, who claims that Anon entirely intended to end up smack dab in the middle of this secret magic land, but is unable to disclose any real details for reasons they refuse to elaborate on. Looking through the pages reveals large swathes of blank space in what's written, as if chunks of text simply decided they never existed in the first place.
Anon, of course, wants to go home (wherever that may be), but the binder insists that there's something really important they have to do before they can.
Thus, Anon is forced to fend for themselves in Gensokyo with vague guidance from their past self as they try to, in no particular order:
A) Escape
B) Regain their memories
C) Do whatever the fuck it was they wanted to do before they got brain-wiped

But it'd sure be nice to figure out why Past Anon was so insistent on nobody finding out about the binder...
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Alright so check it...Gensokyo gets destroyed by some cataclysm at a specific point in time after MC awakens right? Only he doesn't die and instead gets sent back to that point in the past for whatever reason. Certain parts of the notebook are 'blank' because there are 'allies' close to him that either contribute to or cause the collapse and they have ways to see the notebook. His future selves found a way to hide these entries untill certain conditions are met. The story progresses through several iterations of MC ignorance, investigation, and strategic combat with the enemy until the inevitable doomsday(or death), at which point the voters can choose a new vague hint they can send back in time(let's make friends with Sanae, watch the stars on XX day, 9PM curfew DO NOT answer the door, ect...ect..). For added mystery, be sure to make MC a bit of an unreliable narrator, with some of the pre-loaded hints/ journal entries being true/false depending on other factors in the current run.
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Oh boy, just what we need, a few more uninspired babby's first fanfiction Anon drops into Gensokyo isekai stories that could be fitted into any franchise with the serial numbers filed off because the story itself isn't a product of the setting and the author doesn't even care that much about or understand the series they're writing for since they just want to wank over their newly minted OC that doesn't even fit into the setting, mmmmmm just love them, gimme more

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Man, it's a hot one
like seven inches from the mid-day sun


That's the sort of feeling everyone's having in Gensokyo right now. Is it the seasons acting up again? Are things on fire? Has Hell come to establish itself on the surface? Whatever's causing it, pretty much everywhere is hot and humid. That's why the theme for 2022's annual contest shall be a Red-Hot Day in Gensokyo.

Some of you may already be wondering what I'm on about, considering the customary yearly contests generally don't have themes. That's absolutely true in most cases, but in a (sort of) democratic process of discussion and exchange of ideas, it was decided that a narrowing of topics would help bring a bit of focus to potential entrants. Sure, there's the risk that some won't like the theme and not participate, but the flip-side is potentially having nobody participate because the range of potential subjects is too wide. After all, can you easily think up something contest-worthy off the top of your head? (Rhetorical question, do not answer.) Better to buck tradition and have slightly higher hopes of participation than be stubborn and probably get nothing, I think, anyway.

With that in mind, I think newbies and old-bies alike are on the same footing here. Thus, I'll go ahead and explicate everything:

* The theme of the contest is 'a hot day in Gensokyo'. As such, that should be the main topical focus of any entry. What that means is ultimately down to the entrant; it could be as much about a nuclear meltdown as 2hus cooling off by the river. Just keep it in mind when writing your piece.

* There is also a secondary (read: optional) theme of the colour red. Again, there is no set meaning as far as the sort of content that encompasses. There's also no pressure as far as its inclusion, so feel free to ignore the secondary theme if it doesn't fit your plans. That said, I will give extra kudos to
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>I deliberately chose to execute it in a way that would not give away that the fact that it I wrote it.
You got me there. I mainly suspected it was yours but there was room enough to second-guess myself.
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Dammit. I like to consider myself a big fan, but I was totally fooled.

>lack of character
Just to quibble, what I meant was in terms of distinctness. I'll be honest in that I didn't give any entry a particularly deep look-over, so I wasn't primed to appreciate any subtleties of your work. Basically, I took the most shallow route for judging things for lots of things I could — but will refrain from — whinge about. That's rather unfair to you and others, but it is what it is.
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>It was really gratifying to see someone comment on the metaphorical aspect of it.
You’re welcome. Well done.

Hello. To no one’s surprise, I authored the fishtits piece. The aim, aside from you being happy to see me, was to effect a more “generic” pornographic scene such as may be found in other fanfiction repositories, complete with, yes, repetition, crudeness, etc. – but, between a somewhat confounding theme (how would a Slav know what summer is…?), work and and being busy with the bun over in /shrine/, I couldn’t commit 100%. Well, at least it filled out the category. Was better than leaving it (at the time) empty. Too bad about the middling, stopgap quality.

On which note, combined with Mibya’s comment up above, damn, we really screwed the pooch this year on that, didn’t we? Guess those votes of no confidence were deserved after all. I’m going to have to think about breaking some promises (er, again) and maybe making up for it in some way…

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Whoops! Looks like the previous one is finally on autosage. Here's to another five years, I guess.

Let's not actually take five years, though it's most probable at this point.

Might as well take this opportunity to repeat my recommendation for From the Scarlet Moon Flows the Spring and add that Clever, Audacious, and Wise -- and most of Teruyo's stuff from the past couple of years, really -- is worth a read.
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Procurement Specialist?
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oh shit thats it thanks anon, gonna read it again
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Hey, i'm fairly new to touhou (and so, the board) and i just wanted to drop in a rec for the story that got me interested: [i]Scarlet Devil Project: Antinomy of a Devilish Vampire[/]
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/scarlet-devil-project-antinomy-of-a-devilish-vampire-touhou-whf.92110/

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