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20689No. 20689
Previous: >>20324

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Your answer is as much of a summary as it is an emotive reminder of all that makes her great. Liberties are taken with the truth, not in a purposefully misleading way, just – they're just very subjective. Inexperience and a romantic view of the past tinge your words with a definite bias. But in that there's your truth; Your words say what you really feel.

"'What attracts me to you?' Well that's simple: you're my bwest bwuddy in the world, of course. You're also gorgeous, intelligent, and you have an impeccable taste in video games. You happen to look pretty good in poofy red pants and suspenders, which is a plus. You call me out on my idiocy, but you have the patience of saint to deal with my late night visits without fail. You have an uncanny sense when it comes to gift giving, which I think is all to rare in this or any other world. You're kind and caring, almost to a fault. You're easy to tease, easier to kidnap, and a great kisser. You also brought me here and basically saved me from myself. Thank you, by the way. I don't thank you enough for doing that, but I really should. All that and more is why I like you; what attracts me to you. But why I love you? I don't know why. I only know I do."

It's a mouthful. Several lungfuls in fact. There was an underlying urge to stammer, stutter or otherwise choke. But you keep your cool throughout. With the 'great kisser' remark, you expected backlash, a jab at your experience with Eirin.

There's nothing of the sort.

In fact, it looks like your words have a significant impact on her. Kaguya looks lost in thought, layers of pensiveness all bundled on top of another. Some of what you said couldn't have come as a surprise, she already had heard it before. So, the question you find yourself thinking is 'just what is she thinking about?'

“I suppose you could do worse.”

“Excuse me?” You don't know what she means by that. The first words out of her are teasing snipes. Something mismatched with her previous seriousness and concentration. But just like that the onion-like layers of introspective thinking peel off and you're left gazing at a winking Kaguya.

“With everything you've said and done in the past, you could have given me a much worse reply. You did alright,” She explains herself, radiating aloofness. She shrugs, as if you were talking about something trivial like snack food. She smiles as she builds upon her explanation, obviously enjoying herself, “There could be talk of this and that, of forever and undying what have you. I'm proud of you, being straight to the point while still being sweet. It makes me feel special.”

“That's all that matters.” You take the backhanded compliment just the same. If she's happy, you're happy. That's your excuse and you're sticking to it. No matter how teased or perplexed you might feel at times. This adorable and wonderful love of yours is always right. It's all perfectly logical and just.

“Well now that we've gotten that cleared up, I suppose we should talk about something else. How did you sleep?”

You slept pretty well considering you were wrapped awkwardly in a single linen with no pillow. Never mind that Reisen was hogging your bed and your comfy padding. And forget the fact that you awoke to Eirin's cheery face – always a lovely thing to start your day with. It was quite something and you're...

“Wait just a moment. We're not done here.” It's your turn to press the issue. Kaguya had to see this coming, “It's all fine and dandy for me to bare my heart like that but fair is fair. I want to know about what you think about me.”

“Well...”

“Don't start with the whole answering with a question bit. I want the truth. Please.” You realize that you're treading in dangerous territory. There's no guarantee that you'll like what you hear, if you hear anything at all. Though you believe in her and her feelings for you, you're not sure she can be honest with herself. Certainly not enough to admit that she feels the same way you do about her.

There's a gathering storm about. You can tel by the almost electric quality of the air between you. One way or another it'll come down hard. You just hope that it'll be beneficial to you.

“Can you tell me what you think?”
“Isn't it enough that you're here? That you get to even ask this sort of thing?”
“Yes. It is.” And you're happy. “But I guess I'm being selfish with my love here. I want to know all that I can possibly learn.”
“We're having this talk, so... I suppose that I can't hate you or anything like it. Plus, we've done it a few times and it hasn't been bad.”

You successfully pass an internal check. You let her continue talking instead of teasing her about the 'it' you've 'done a few times'. Bigger fish to fry.

“I appreciate why you feel the way you do. And it's refreshing. Though I can't always be sure that things will work out, I want to believe that they will. And I guess I'm happy with all that.” Her eyes dart around, realizing she hasn't answered you properly, “Sorry, I guess that's not really what you wanted to hear.”

“It's a start.” You get up. Kaguya flinches as you approach her. She seems especially vulnerable now. You sit next to her, grabbing and holding one of her hands. She's cold. A strangely comforting fact. The storm still seems to be brewing, but you feel in control of the big picture.

“I don't know what else to say.” She's uncomfortable and squirms a bit.
“Whatever you want to say. I feel like the luckiest man in the world already but, if you wanted, you return my feelings however you wanted. I mean you could say it back or, umm, not even that, don't worry I'm not pressuring you or whatever. But you know what I mean and I...”

You're a mess. It'd be cute if it weren't so uncool. If you're not confident, Kaguya's not confident. Or that's how it feels anyway. You know she can be pretty assertive when she wants to be. Try as she might to deny it, she does fit into some of the 'princess' stereotypes. She knows how to command a man so that he would be willing to leap of a cliff for her with the slightest suggestion. It's a perfectly frightful ability.

“I like you, I really do. You're special to me.” Her assertion comes coupled with a nervous laugh, one meant to draw attention away from just how red she's become. One look at her and you can tell that her mind is racing, thinking of goodness knows what. You feel a swell of pride that it's all about you.

You watch as she awkwardly cranes her neck towards you. It's ungraceful. But you feel warm, knowing that it's her not-very-subtle way of offering you a kiss. Her lips tremble with some anticipation and her hand feels abit clammy, making it all the more endearing.

[] Settle for a peck
[] Try a real kiss
[] Go for something bolder
[] Refrain from anything and just squeeze her hand
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>>No. 20691
[x] Try a real kiss
>>No. 20692
[x] Settle for a peck
In certain situations this action has more meaning than might seem apparent.
>>No. 20693
[x] Try a real kiss
>>No. 20694
[X] Settle for a peck

Feels right here.
>>No. 20695
[X] Try a real kiss

I dunno. A peck seems too little, but trying for more seems too much. Since she's actually offering for once, it would be a shame to disappoint.

On the other hand, I wonder if something fun couldn't come from not doing it.
Shirou's taken the initiative twice, while Kaguya has only done it once. That means she still owes him one, and as far as she's gone right now compared to how she's been, it still feels like she's holding back a bit.
Understandable, given her clear uncertainty and such, but with Shirou already making it perfectly clear how he feels and why, it just doesn't feel right unless she properly reciprocates and uses the "L" word.

I mean, as hung-up on propriety as she was about those two kisses, it's clear she has some idea of what the "rules" are for this sort of thing. Shirou's made his stance clear, so it's only fair that she show that a full commitment is what she's thinking of, as well.
I mean, we just want her to tell us how she's feeling, so we can better help her to understand that we're never gonna give her up, never gonna let her down, never gonna run around and desert her. We're also never gonna make her cry, say goodbye, tell a lie, or hurt her. Intentionally.
>>No. 20696
[x] Go for something bolder
The chances are good that this might lead to something good. Don't know if it will lead to some quality time with Kaguya, but there will be something. She is showing that she wants won't say no to Shirou.
>>No. 20697
hard decision is hard.
as >>20696 said, going the extra mile will probably result in something interesting, maybe even fun, specially knowing our dear writefag.
And i would really set for a peck just to troll her, but i feel our recent attitude has been of assertive straightforwardness (lol srs bsns), so i'll be going with:
[X] Try a real kiss
as >>20695 said, so as to not dissapoint. After all, it was high time she replied properly.
>>No. 20698
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20698
[x] Try a real kiss
>>No. 20699
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[X] Try a real kiss
>>No. 20700
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20700
>>20689
[X] Try a real kiss

Our first two were surprises, and so was her first. Time to share one, assuming we don't get interrupted.

Good update, and I'm glad the write-in went over well. I was squirming during the part about Shirou asking Kaguya for how she felt, though. I was waiting for a bomb, but in the end I'm pleasantly surprised.
>>No. 20705
It'll be unlikely that I update in the next day or two, seeing as I'll be on the move again. If there is to be an update before that, it may occur sometime within the next 5-6 hours. Otherwise, nothing.
>>No. 20706
hauuu~
>>No. 20717
;_;
>>No. 20740
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20740
I won't rest
>>No. 20742
[Z] Let her take the lead and squeeze her hand
>>No. 20753
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20753
>It'll be unlikely that I update in the next day or two

>4/27->5/4
>>No. 20760
>>20753
He hasn't been in the IRC room either.
>>No. 20783
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20783
Teruyo is missing and no one knows where he is.
>>No. 20784
>>20783
My theory is that he got a rare figurine by mail and shortly thereafter disappeared without a trace.
>>No. 20785
>>20784

Oh, you
>>No. 20786
Guys he said he was moving. I'd imagine it'd take a couple of days to settle in and have an isp all set ready for him.

take it easy~!
>>No. 20787
>>20786
He already arrived and left IRC without saying anything many days ago.
>>No. 20792
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20792
>>20787
Yeah he was talking about his new keyboard then poof. vanish. last words were "bleh." and a quit message of "fare thee well."

It's kind of empty there just the bots to talk to.
>>No. 20827
Still no word?
>>No. 20831
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20831
You know, if you guys would actually SHOW that you care about his disappearance, maybe he'd come back. I may neglect his channel from time to time but I still think he's a very cool dude, and I can tell that his story has more or less really improved, even if his writing style hasn't necessarily changed for it. (which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it)

Teruyo was how I got my start on here and many oldbie anons that read my first story can attest to that. (with a burning hatred) Regardless, if not for him and his story, I might not have gotten much interest in this site and might not have started writing at all. I still enjoyed DoLF1 and for all it's impurities and retardation it was still the first story I enjoyed on this site, and one day I intend on catching up to this one too.

Come on people, care a little more that the person who doesn't just run the site left, but the man who was writing here since the site started left.
>>No. 20832
>>20831
This.

C'mon guys. what do I have to do to light a fire under your ass?
>>No. 20833
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20833
>>20831
>>20832

And to think I thought this was all shenanigans...

god fucking damnit..
>>No. 20834
>>20831
>>20832
My disappearance has nothing to do with attentionwhoring. I felt that I needed to drop off the grid for a week or so. I haven't really checked or done anything on the web since then. The real life issues, complications, and my feelings are irrelevant as this isn't my blog.

I won't lie though, things on the site contributed as well (the internet as a whole really). I know I can't do shit about most of that, and I can usually deal with that truth, but it gets a bit overwhelming at times. Talking from an ego perspective: yes, it would have been nice for there to have been more fuss made. But that's a basic human thing and, in the big picture, I don't expect adulation to weigh in that much. Hypocritically enough, I do wish people kept their word more often or at least tried to. Even if expectations are low, any failure to comply is still a bit of a disappointment.

I apologize for not giving people a heads up. And my sense of responsibility made me feel rather guilty if that's any consolation. If I were leaving I'd state as much as I believe it's fair and closure is underrated.

Q:Updates where?
A:When I feel better about things.
Q:How soon could that be?
A:An hour, a day, depends on a lot of things. Most of the groundwork has been laid down this past week.
Q:Do you need a hug?
A:Reisen does fine without any day in or day out. I should be able to be like that too.
Q:Why must you bring up the poor moonbunny constantly, you monster?
A: I am a dick who loves a little too much. More than recommended for his own good.
>>No. 20835
>>You know, if you guys would actually SHOW that you care about his disappearance, maybe he'd come back

It's not that I don't care that he's disappeared, far from it, but without knowing why he's gone I don't know how comfortable I am saying anything about it.

If it's due purely to issues here, that would be one thing, but how am I to know it's not due to something else, perhaps of a far more personal nature? I don't know about anyone else, but I know if I was calling for someone to come back and update again, and it turns out the reason he was gone in the first place was because his dad died or something, I'd feel pretty horrible.

On top of that, I'm also mindful of the fact that he, like everyone else here, is more or less working on an at-will basis, and as such has every right to stop and leave whenever he wants. We might not like it, but it's his right to do so, and we have to respect that, don't we?


...annnnnnnnnnnnd I see the man himself has posted while I was writing this.
Well, screw it, I'm posting this anyway.

Hope things start looking up for you, Teruyo.
Just don't forget that we all love you, man, in as much of a non-gay, non-creepy way a bunch of completely faceless strangers possibly can.


Also:
>>A:Reisen does fine without any day in or day out. I should be able to be like that too.

Oh, sure she makes it look easy, but I think we all know that beneath the surface she's like a worn-down dam, desperately holding back the pounding tide of emotion that will surely eventually cause the walls to crack and break down, letting loose an unending torrent of tears that will flatten all in their path.

Those sweet, sweet, delicious tears.
>>No. 20836
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20836
Well whether it's regarded as silly or not,

Thanks for your efforts as well as taking the time to write.

Thanks for keeping /Eientei/ alive along side the few couple of writers that post on this section as well.
>>No. 20837
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20837
>Talking from an ego perspective: yes, it would have been nice for there to have been more fuss made.
But we missed you. Spring was asking nearly every day where you are. He missed you so bad.
I wanted to tell you how much i appreciate all your hard work for the site and all the nice things that you put into the site but you had to leave, so screw you.


I am glad that you are back, you were missed man. Don't do that shit again. Now get bakc to work Nigger.
>>No. 20838
You know guys, Luna Ars Memorativa that's in this section seems quite set on a Reisen route, so the infamous gag will finally end.

Glad to see you haven't left. I won't be overstaying what welcome I do have
>>No. 20902
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20902
She stares blankly at you. Then again, maybe not. There's a glazed over semblance to
her eyes; It looks like she's staring off somewhere very far away, transcending the
confines of perhaps this planet. Her mouth is sightly agape, her lips parted dumbly. What happened was by you initiative and felt damn good. No major foul-ups on either end. It might have been too short... but you lost of track of time. Kaguya has a knack for making you forget that time and space still exist.

Your lips are very much spread open in a similar fashion. The cause of that isn’t so much the feeling of being dumbfounded as it is the intense satisfaction felt. That partition of lips is a grimace. You likely look very smug right about now. You’re a regular bastard. A real rascal.

"You keep surprising me." Her words come off sounding like her genuine impression. You watch as she draws her mouth to a close gently. She brings a finger to her cheek but stops short of raising it to touch her lips, "I don't know whether to be happy or sad about that."

"I'd prefer happy. Though you're adorable when you pout, I wouldn't want to make you
miserable. Then I'd feel sad as well."
"I don't pout," She scowls.
"Do too. And it's also adorable when you scowl. It's so unfair of you to be that cute."
There's a smile on your behalf. You could get used to seeing her saturnine complexion this often. If only because it’s an indicator that she’s somewhat flustered.

“Real, real unfair,” You repeat, giving in to an overwhelming impulse. She barely has time to look flush as she realizes what you’re going to do. Your lips meet hers once again as you go in for a second round. Your second real kiss is as vivid as the first, and unlike the first attempt, Kaguya seems less passive - your prodding tongue is met by her own. The playful light fandango is skipped over in favor of a series of cartwheels and pirouettes. Sliding into intensity, you only stop when you’re sure you’re both a whiter shade of pale.

“See what I mean?” You whisper, feeling the breath sucked out of you, “I can’t help myself.”

Hers is a fortunate reply, sunny to the core in spite of her shortness of breath, “I believe you, like always.” She broadcasts an impish smile after she gathers her wits, taking time to sit up straight and fix her somewhat slack appearance, “Is this going to be how you treat me now, do your earlier promises count for nothing?”

“I’m not breaking any promises.”

“Sure you are.” She reminds you of the half-hearted promise you made after the second time you dared to kiss her.

You crack a grin.

“What’s with the dumb look?” She teases, betraying some anxiety. Her subtly insecure countenance makes you want to say it all the more.

“I’m not breaking any promises Kaguya.” You can hardly contain yourself, “I said that I wasn’t going to kiss you back then unless you wanted me to. It seems to me that you want me to kiss you.”
“Oh get a hold of yourself-”
“Your words say ‘no’ but your lips definitely say ‘yes, kiss me until I forget who I am and where I am’,” You add with a bit of mock introspection, “Perhaps it’s not so much your lips as it is your tongue... still I stand by my statement.”

Kaguya stands. Instead of looking aghast or red as you expected she paces around the room slowly and with grace. It’s a weird reaction from her you think and you don’t do much but calmly watch her go about, feeling a bit disappointed that she’s not as red as a strawberry.

“Well, you’re right.” She concedes unceremoniously. “I do feel that way.”

“Hah.” It’s a welcome surprise. You get to your feet. You clasp her hands, not sure if it’s just your palms that are sweaty. You act the triumphant hero, magnanimous in victory and intent on enjoying the spoils. She doesn’t flinch and looks rather pensive. Her brow furrows slightly, giving off a signal that you’re attuned to.

“Is it going to be like this all the time from now on?”
“I like you and I’m pretty sure that you like me so it’s not really that weird to do this sort of thing.”
“That’s not what I mean. That’s nice but not really my main concern.”
“Then tell me what’s bothering you,” You wear a helpful smile, one that promises to give her your undivided attention.
“This isn’t something proper. Princesses don’t do this kind of thing.” Her words come out reluctantly, like they are tied to a chain connected to her deeper anxieties.
“You’re my Kaguya first. That you’re a princess or anything else doesn’t matter.”
Your Kaguya? Hm...”She seems troubled, but not necessarily because of your reply. You wouldn‘t be you if you didn‘t think about the wild possibility of her role playing as the haughty princess just then - that scenario has a shameful appeal to it, “It’s a bit more complicated than that I think. There’s other things.”
“There’s no need for things to be complicated, just share. I’ll listen.”

There’s certain parts of herself that she keeps hidden away from you. She does share - citing anxiety about doing things she’s never really done before - but her conservative use of words hint that there’s something else in there. Something that your prodding and gentle nagging can’t get her to share. You feel your hands get colder with regards to hers; Prying information out of her isn’t as easy as asking her to open up.

Talking and listening ends with sitting together side by side. Silence prevails and for the longest time you just sit there cuddled up, enjoying every minute of it. Though you wish she would be a little bit more honest with you, the steady progress that you’re making makes you happy enough. Kaguya seems to be taking the idea of you and her a little bit more seriously. If not seriously, then at least accepting the feelings you’ve shared with her. There’s a block on her side, preventing you from confirming anything.

Some time later there’s a knock on the door.

“Sorry for disturbing you, but lunch is ready.” Reisen announces only once before turning away and walking off. She doesn’t bother to wait for a reply, which strikes you as odd. Kaguya is fine with that and urges you to get up and join her.

You get to enjoy lunch alone with Kaguya. The table has only two places set and there’s not another soul in sight. The food is as good as always and Kaguya engages you in smalltalk, mostly related to the food. It’s silly, but it’s somehow fun to be at ease like this. It allows you to pretend that you’re the only ones living here. A new couple having a nice meal together.

“The way these carrots are prepared is absolutely delicious.”
“I’m rather fond of these noodles.” Kaguya finises off the portion on her plate with a satisfied smile.

“That’s nice to hear. I made them myself.” Eirin materializes from the door on the far end of the dining hall. She wears her cap sloppily to one side, and the top button of her dress is undone. It gives the impression that she either dressed in a hurry or was too out of it.

“Oh, that’s rare,” Kaguya observes, her fingers hold her chopsticks tighter. For some reason your heart skips a beat. “We’re honored that you’d cook for us.”

Eirin shambles on closer, casually parking herself next to you. Her scent, rather perfume, seems stronger than usual and it tickles your nose. “It’s no trouble at all you know princess. Things have been a bit slow at the clinic and it’s been so long since you ate anything I made.”

In a sudden move, she wraps her arm around you, bringing you closer to her loosened collar and exposed neck. You begin to blush, in no small part due to the delicious smell. “Did you enjoy it Shirou? I was going to ask you to help me out, but you disappeared on me earlier.”

“He was with me.” On the surface, it seems like Kaguya is taking these new developments in stride.
“I know. I’m jealous.” She squeezes you even closer, “He left me even after I went to wake him up.”
“Eirin, you were jealous?” The bit of tension you noticed earlier unravels as Kaguya looks to be completely nonplussed, “Why in the world would you be jealous?”
“Come now princess, I have feelings too. Or has it been that long since our last little talk and lesson?” The silver-haired lunarian slacks her hold, allowing you to sit upright again. She speaks as one would expect, like one old friend to another, “Things can get a bit boring around here and new blood is always interesting. I’m sure everyone here at one point or another has wanted to spend a little time with him.”

Or so her explanation goes. She makes the claim that you’re good company even without overlooking a few slip ups here and there. She makes a compelling case; The time you’ve spent with her has also contributed to her expectations. It’s completely reasonable but you sense that Kaguya doesn’t buy it entirely. You really wish she was a bit easier to understand.

“So, you won’t mind if I borrow him for a while then?”
“Sure, go ahead. He doesn’t belong to me or anything.”

You stop Kaguya right as she starts to leave. The little aside you have is done with Eirin’s consent, who happily munches on some of the leftovers.

“What’s the big idea? You can’t just get rid of me like that.”
“I feel sorry for her.” Kaguya steals a look at Eirin, she keeps her voice down, “Do me a favor and spend some time with her.”
“But I want to spend time with you.”
“To keep trying your luck, no doubt.”

She looks uneasy. Like she really doesn’t want Eirin to hear. Figuring out why is beyond you right now.

“Do it for me please,” She pleads gently.
“Fine. I can’t say no to you. But I expect you to explain a couple of things in detail some other time. I feel like I’m in the dark.”
“We’ll see.” You stop from bolting her by grabbing her hand - she flinches. Eirin is looking at you, and Kaguya has a hard time finding words, “Now do run along and keep Eirin some company please Shirou.”

[] Do as you’re asked
[] Get another smooch
[] Cuddle up to Eirin before Kaguya leaves
>>No. 20903
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20903
[X] Do as you’re asked

Well, great, now I feel bad for not opting to spend time with her, earlier.
First of all, because she seems to be trying so damn hard now, and secondly because I'm slightly suspicious she's hitting the sauce to drown her sorrows as a result of all this.

Drenching herself in perfume like that could possibly be an attempt to cover up the overpowering stench of alcohol that would otherwise be wafting off her.
>>No. 20904
[x] Do as you’re asked
>>No. 20907
[X] Do as you’re asked
>>No. 20909
[x] Do as you’re asked

Stop making it harder to resist Eirin every update. Stop.
>>No. 20914
[x] Cuddle up to Eirin before Kaguya leaves
She does not think she deserves it as long as Eirin has it not too?
>>No. 20917
[x] Do as you’re asked

asdflkj'l;kjk
>>No. 20918
[x] Do as you’re asked

Must...resist...hot...doctor...
>>No. 20919
>>20914
So, that's the way it's gonna be, huh?

[x] Cuddle up to Eirin after Kaguya leaves

>>20903
Good point. I feel guilty of thinking that she used a shady drug perfume with pheromones so that she would keep tempting him and, eventually, break his relation with Kaguya and then ditch him
>>No. 20923
>>20919
Oh, I had considered that possibility, but that sort of thing just seems so boringly obvious by now. Doesn't mean it might not still be the case, though. After all, we've already seen how well Eirin can change between when Kaguya is present, and when she is not, and so we might get a better sense of what she's trying to do once Kaguya is well out of ear-shot.
That, or more likely, we'll find ourselves becoming more confused than we were before.

Still, consider why Kaguya might be doing this.
She's clearly not oblivious to the fact that something is going on with Eirin that involves Shirou. I figure she's suspicious, and so is putting the two together to try to better understand the situation, or she's genuinely feeling sorry for her friend and is trying to throw her a bone.

Sure, this could be some attempt at subterfuge by the good doctor, an attempt to sabotage the budding romance between two buddies, but it just feels like there's more to it than just that.

Eirin's made it quite clear that Shirou will remain in Eientei so long as she wants him to be there. The fact that he's still there, then, clearly means she wants him to be there.
Plus, she seems more or less completely serious about her "offer". Granted, the first time may have been made partially with the goal of testing Shirou's resolve, but not so on the second offer.

Besides all that, I just like the idea that much of what Eirin is doing now isn't some sort of manipulation, but actually is her attempt to make herself more appealing to the guy she likes, but not doing a terribly good job at it due to her not being so good with the whole "feelings" thing.
>>No. 20925
>>20923
I really don't want to rain down on any preconceived ideas, but I'm pretty sure Eirin can manipulate Kaguya in any which way. Not only does Eirin strike me as the manipulatory type, but even if she wasn't her level of intelligence is canonically on a higher level than Kaguya's.

Kaguya's ability is merely the manipulation of eternity, and assuming Eirin isn't interested in that (which most likely, she isn't, or she would be more in pursuit of eternal existence), Eirin's ultimate goal is Kaguya herself, manipulation or not.

In my opinion, we need to show Eirin that Kaguya does want us, and not in such a masculine manner (aka kissing).

[] Do as you’re asked
- [] If possible, show a little more resistance while accepting.
>>No. 20926
wow, that update was beautiful

so yeah, i see where most of us are going, lets see where this takes us
[X] Do as you're asked
- [X] If possible, show a little more resistance while accepting.
>>No. 20927
>>20923
I sure hope you're right. I'd like that Eirin too.

[x] Cuddle up to Eirin after Kaguya leaves
>>No. 20928
>If possible, show a little more resistance while accepting.
I am not sure if we should resist any more. We already resisted and she asked us again, pleading, something that she does not often do.
>“Do it for me please,” She pleads gently.
Any more than that and it would probably hurt her. The whole situation is already hard enough on her no need to make it any more harder for her.

I don't know but Eirin seems to have changed a bit since the time when we stood up to her some time ago. Maybe she finally got more interest in Shirou and tries to break them apart.
If you want some conspiration theory it could be, becuase she knows everything about Kaguya, that she plays some cards that Kaguya has no chances to counter so that she can have her way.

That is why i voted for Cuddle up to Eirin. In a childish stubborn way trying to get back at her for asking us to do that. And probably make her a bit jealous.
>>No. 20929
>>20928

you make a fair point, sir.
Somehow, i see this turning into some kind of game where we play against Eirin for Kaguya's attention.
>>No. 20933
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>>Somehow, i see this turning into some kind of game where we play against Eirin for Kaguya's attention.

I am okay with this.
Though, what would be even better is if, on top of Eirin and Shirou competing for Kaguya's attention, Kaguya starts competing with Shirou for Eirin's attention. Then, on top of that, Eirin and Kaguya start competing for Shirou's attention.

Sexy hijinks ensue.
>>No. 20934
>>20933
I see it more like Eirin suddenly going yandere on poor Shirou.
>>No. 20935
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>>20934
I can't see Eirin going yandere. Not properly, anyway. They're too violent, too messy. Eirin would be far cleaner and more precise.

When a yandere kills you, they're typically psychotically laughing and screaming and possibly masturbating with the handle of their meat cleaver. Eirin, I feel, would be more inclined to deal with a problem with the same level of calm, dispassionate professionalism she would show in excising a malignant tumor or amputating a gangrenous limb.

...well, as much "professionalism" as you can show while castrating someone with a dull hacksaw and with no anesthetic.
Well, no anesthetic for the "patient" at least.
>>No. 20937
>>20935
>>20934
>>20933
I came back, intent on writing and here I see this. You people are awful.

Now I can't stop thinking about Eirin working her magic slowly and deliberately. She'd do things thoroughly and take much pleasure in taking complete control of the situation. Maybe enough pleasure to cause her to lose focus for a moment, away from her quarry and her objective, causing her to indulge in some simple fun. Naturally, this rare loss of composure would only last a scant few minutes but during that time she will have worked herself up into a frenzied state of pure bliss. Finally she'd end things, leaving herself absolutely exhausted and worked to the bone.

It's all your fault. I hope you feel proud of yourselves.
>>No. 20940
>>20937

I came.
>>No. 20945
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Kaguya takes a last look before leaving. With a puzzling expression, as her eyes cross from Eirin to you, she leaves.

“Now then, shall we take a walk?” Eirin wastes no time, finishing up a stray noodle with a tiny slurp. She stands up slowly, swaying forward a little too much.

“I’m not sure I want to be here.”

“Too bad,” She grins, sending a shiver down your spine. Her intense gaze strips away all of your layers, “You heard the princess, you’re spending time with me.”

She coaxes you into following her with a wave of her hand.

“We’re going to take a little stroll together.” She explains with certain detachment. There is less whimsy and more soberness to her tone now, “You don’t mind walking do you? Of course not. It can be such a chore to make my way around this place, every hallway looks the same.”

Additional conversation is limited to her pointless one-sided smalltalk for a while. That is, until you reach a courtyard.

“Peaceful place, isn’t it?” She finds her way to a rock, looming over a small barren pond. “I’m willing to bet that we’re completely alone here. Not even those rabbits could overhear us now.”
“And no doubt you’ll have ensured it somehow.”
“What do you take me for? A sociopath of sorts? You make it sound like I’ve slaughtered the lot of them just to buy us some time alone.”
“I’m sure you’re hurt.” Your words have a sarcastic barb that escapes logical accountability.
“On the contrary, flattered that you think enough of me to think that I have complete sway over everything that occurs in Eientei.”
“You’ve done a good job selling that image, I’ll admit. What with constantly threatening me and making it seem like you’re in control.”
“Ah. Control is nice, but overrated. Especially if you can’t get the results you want. To tell you the truth, I’d rather someone like you appreciate me than fear me.”
“Don’t tell me you were serious...”

Eirin’s fragrance hits you like a point-blank shotgun blast when she moves on closer to you. It has a corrosive effect - wasting away all of your other senses until all you can feel is her aroma. It’s not like she poured a whole bottle of the stuff all over herself, rather it’s like the perfume is sentient and knows to go for your nose.

“Just a little.” The lunarian smiles. Under the early afternoon sun her hair looks iridescent. The display draws your attention to her face and her full lips. “It does feel good to get attention. It’s part of being human. Even if you were to conquer your physical needs, you’d find that your emotional ones still remained.”

“What do you want from me? I doubt it’s just a hug and someone to hear you out.”

She sticks out her tongue playfully, somehow managing to look like a mischievous teen, “The feeling of being wrapped in your big strong arms is appealing, and no woman could resist but you’re right in concluding that it’s not that.”

“Can we cut to the chase then?”
“I’m not sure there’s anything to cut to here.”
“And why would that be?”
“Because I don’t really know where I’m going with this.”
“Eh?”
“It’s quite simple. There’s a whole bunch of things I want to do. Things I’ve promised to do. Things I am doing. But there are also things I haven’t ever thought about. Or things I don’t know where to fit it. Like talking to you like this right now. You’re special.”
“I’m honored.”
“Don’t be.” She shrugs. Her calculating side once again takes dominance, “As far as human males go, you’re within the expected range. Not remarkable in any way. The cosmos don’t depend on your existence, that’s what I mean. Past interaction with me hasn’t been that clear cut either. It’s not like I’ve found in you a soul mate, someone that understands me - nor anyone that I’d want to do harm for no real reason.”
“You being open with me is just confusing.”
“Trust me, this isn’t me being open, it’s me being polite. You are important to Kaguya and I owe it to her to operate at some standard.”
“It’s that part of you that makes me want to you whisper nothing but those sweet nothings into my ear at night.”
“I’m sure.” She gets back on track, “What I’m trying to say is that nothing has compelled things to be this way except what you’ve done and what I’ve done. No outside interference.’

The point she tries to make, if it’s a point at all, eludes you. It seems to elude her too. It’s like she’s holding back something, something which she doesn’t want to say out loud. You get the distinct impression that it has to do with Kaguya’s worry. A nervous tick causes you to check the time. It’s past two and you don’t know where all the time has gone. Time lapses aren’t good signs of mental acuity.

“I suppose I had a point in there somewhere. I can only blame myself for the mess that my thoughts are in. I apologize. Admittedly a drink would be nice... what am I saying?”

Eirin shakes her head.

“With regards to us. I must ask something.”
“Us?”
“You and I. That’s what ‘us’ means.”
“I know but... right just tell me.”
“How do you want us to deal with each other?”
“Like normal people?”
“That’s not what I meant. Threats aside, you are someone that lives here. You are someone who affects my life, if only indirectly sometimes. It’s important to sort this sort of thing out. Besides...”
“Besides?”
“I’m curious. Curious about you. Isn’t that reason enough for any inquisitive mind to ask?”

[] “Like always is just fine.”
[] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”
[] Change the subject
>>No. 20946
>one more boring choice and it is needletime.jpg

Are you trying to threaten us or tempt us?

[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”
>>No. 20949
>>“I suppose I had a point in there somewhere. I can only blame myself for the mess that my thoughts are in. I apologize. Admittedly a drink would be nice... what am I saying?”

Yep. She's been drinking.

>>“Like always is just fine.”
Boring. "Like always" is why you're in the situation you're in now.

>>Change the subject.
Evasive and (potentially) boring. Also does nothing to address the situation, but unlike the "like always" option it at least has potential to lead somewhere else.
Who knows what roads we could find ourselves going down with some of Eirin's thought processes being driven her friend in the bottle?

>>Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

Risky? Sure, but that's part of the fun.
Besides, it's actually not such a bad idea for the two to get to know each other better on a closer and more personal level. "Intimately" doesn't just mean that one thing, after all, and Eirin said it herself that she would prefer Shirou appreciate her rather than fear her. Maybe, in developing appreciation for her, she in turn would develop more appreciation for him.

[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

I say it's Eirin's turn to be taken on a camping trip. Maybe some spelunking.
The two of them, together, strapped into their harnesses and gripping tightly on their lengths of rope, plunging eagerly in the darkness to explore every nook and cranny of the unknown...
>>No. 20951
>one more boring choice and it is needletime.jpg

[x]“By getting to know each other more intimately.”

Let's go crazy.

>“Because I don’t really know where I’m going with this.”
>“It’s quite simple. There’s a whole bunch of things I want to do. Things I’ve promised to do. Things I am doing. But there are also things I haven’t ever thought about. Or things I don’t know where to fit it
Is that you Teruyo?
>>No. 20952
[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

Sounds like it could work.
>>No. 20954
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[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

Can't blame Shirou's "reserved" feelings but god damn that attitude of his spoils the mood.
>>No. 20958
X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

This can't possibly go wrong.
>>No. 20960
[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

This seems like the best option right now. What should really happen is the sharing of more sentiments, information, feelings, etc.
>>No. 20961
[X] Joke. “By getting to know each other more intimately.”

Do what we do best: being completely unpredictable.
>>No. 20964
[x] “Like always is just fine....”
...Eirin-Sensei
>>No. 20969
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>>20961
ADD at it's finest. Reisen is next
>>No. 20972
“I have no way out of this do I?” You ask.
“None.”
“Alright then. Since you force my hand I’ll have to let the truth out,” Getting the right amount of playful sarcasm into your voice is key here and you think you manage just fine, “We should deal with each other by getting to know each other more intimately.”
“Oh heavens.”

Eirin smiles, and seems to think about what you’ve just said. She nods, “There’s not much too me unfortunately, not that I won’t mind if you spend some time with me. I do like needlepoint, though I don’t have much affinity for it and I enjoy long walks under the moonlight.” She blathers on, her cheeks turning a light hue of red, “I like strong and decisive partners and my cup size is... well you might want to discover for yourself.”

“I’m... glad we have an understanding.”
“Me too. Wanna feel?”
“Feel what?”
You know.”
“Erm.” You gulp as she undoes another button of her dress.”
“I bet you do want to discover the truth on your own.”
“I’m not sure that’s entirely appropriate. I mean-”
“Don’t be such a spoilsport.”
“I’m sorry-”
“It’s okay. I was joking anyways,” She chuckles, “Well, maybe.”
“Right." You don’t know what to think. She’s usually more subtle about this sort of thing. “So, what now?”
“The sun is a little too strong, don’t you think?” She places a hand over her forehead, using it like a visor, “Let’s move on inside.”

“Hm, want some?” Eirin produces a small flask from somewhere on her dress. She extends a hand once you’re back under the shade of the corridor.
“No thank you, I don’t feel like drinking.”
“It’s just water, are you sure?”
“Thank you anyway.” You watch her shrug and take a sip. You have a strong suspicion that the flask does not contain water, despite Eirin’s claims. Something about the scent you might have sensed as she took off the top.
“Suit yourself... it’s really refreshing.” She gulps the contents greedily.

It didn’t click until now. What’s been putting you off about Eirin. Ever since last night. Watching her go through around half of the liquid in the flask puts it all into perspective. It may be because she looked absolutely ungraceful and ordinary just then.

Eirin is acting wild.

Like an overworked student going wild during break. Or an uptight housewife who just discovered the pleasure in recreational drugs and key parties.

Her sloppy attire, her unkempt hair, her straightforward manner. It’s totally unbecoming of her. The Eirin you know is someone cold, distant, who seems to calculate every possibility carefully. She doesn’t seem to possess any of those qualities now. The woman in front of you is no better than a wasted coed. Sure, Eirin was always flirtatious and her comments laden with innuendo but this is crass by comparison. This Eirin is liable to make crude and vulgar jokes about genitalia. This is something you find highly disturbing.

“Are you okay? You’re worrying me.”

“Whatever do you mean, my boy?” She flops down on the wooden floor with little control. The floorboards groan under the sudden change in pressure. She manages to keep the flask from overturning and spilling the contents but just barely. There’s still some self-awareness left in her apparently, “That was just the sun, it got to my head. Needed to sit down. Don’t worry, I’m good.”

“You’re worrying me.”
“And you’re worrying me.”
“Seriously, you’re not yourself.”
“How would you know that? You barely know me at all!”
“Sheesh,” You try to calm her down by acting aloof, “I thought we had agreed to get to know each other more intimately. You haven’t exactly given me a chance.”
“Oh that’s true.”
“Well then. Mind giving me a chance?”
“There’s Kaguya to think about here. Are you going to try to get to know me in the biblical sense?”
“I, no.”
“Oh I’m familiar with all those texts. Us lunarians like to keep tabs on Earthling development.” She answers the unasked question, sounding a bit prideful of the role lunarians have. “Real vivid stuff in that book. Despite the interpretations a lot of you give it, it doesn’t claim that fornication is bad after all. No shame in admitting you want to.”
“You’re going way too fast here.” You kneel beside her, “Can’t we start off slow. I was just joking, I didn’t mean much by the innuendo.”
“Sure. But I did.” She sighs, “Or is this your way of telling me that I’m not good enough?”
“It’s not that. I have Kaguya and that’s enough. I don’t want to mess anything up.”
“I wonder about that.”
“There you go again. What do you mean?You lunarians sure love your cryptic comments, don’t you? Kaguya is the same.”

Eirin chortles. She takes another drink from the flask.

“We do like our ambiguous comments, don’t we? I suppose it comes from living the way we do. I can tell some killer riddles, you know. Even my best students haven’t been able to correctly answer some of them. Even after they went and got married...”

“But no. Back to here, back to now.” She prevents nostalgia and recollection from dominating the discourse. Wild woman or not, she still can direct the conversation as she pleases, “Don’t you want to make the best out of everything, out of life?”

“Who doesn’t? What does this have to do with Kaguya and I?”
“I want what’s best for her, I really do. I’m offering to help you out. To teach, to inspire you to greater heights.”
“Teach how?”
“About love and life. I don’t think I have to spell it out. Kaguya deserves the best. I’ve seen the way you look at her, and the way she looks at you. Your feelings are clear.”
“Mine are, I haven’t gotten anything definite from her.”
“There you go!” She claps her hands loudly, “You need help, don’t you see it? Help I can provide. Both of you are mere children. You’ll get nowhere at this rate.”
“I don’t think this is beneficial to me, it sounds like it could blow up in my face, hurt her. And I don’t want her.”
“She’ll understand. I can help her understand as well. It eventually won’t be a secret. Just until you manage to reach a good balance. Right now things seem tense and not easily resolvable. Anyone could tell from but a glance.”

“My fondness for you...” Eirin takes pause, “Is a factor. And my recompense is twofold. It has been a long time and a real touch, even if transient will do me good I think. Not only will I be helping the one I’ve sworn to do my best for, but also... it’s unfair of me. But it feels right. No doubt some may see me as a wretched woman and they may be right after all.”

“Self-pity isn’t like you.”
“Neither would something like this offer. But it is. Dedication and effort is something that I take seriously.”
“I’m to choose now? Between betraying Kaguya or somehow disappointing you?”
“Neither of those is the truth. Think about it if you want. This is why I wanted some time alone with you.”
“You make it sound easy. Would you be able to decide quickly if you were in my shoes?”
“I don’t know. I’d do what I felt was the best for everyone.”
“What ever happened to the alternative of just getting advice?”
“Insufficient in this case. This requires dedication and resolve. One way or the other. Or do you need more ‘convincing’? If it’s something as childish as allowing you to grope me, go ahead, if it helps out in the long run anything is fine by me. I’m ready to do what it takes.”

[] Reply

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I just wanted to say that no matter how this story ends, as things are developing, Eirin will be happy. Whether or not she'll be truly satisfied is another matter (as is the happiness of other characters). Also, the PDA totally should make much more sense now in light of what's happened.
>>No. 20973
>About love and life. I don’t think I have to spell it out. Kaguya deserves the best.
I acutally thought about this jokingly not really taking this serious. That is probably why she put Reisen in his bed.
>She’ll understand. I can help her understand as well.
I bet she can. Sounds like a threesome. She doesn't really beat around the bush. Probably why she needed some alcohol.

[x] "Teach me Eirin"
>Help I can provide. Both of you are mere children. You’ll get nowhere at this rate
Sounds kind of sexual, but it is meant in a way to accept her proposal. I think that she has the wellbeing of Kaguya in mind and trying to make something better out of Shirou. This includes Eirin wanting to train Shirou so that he can better satisfy Kaguya. Not that she would mind that much.
>>No. 20974
[x] "Teach me Eirin"

No regrets
>>No. 20975
As far as i understand it, our main objective is NOT Eirin's satisfaction. However, i do believe that this process might do us good once the good doctor gets back to her senses. So here's to doing the "best for everyone".

[x] "Teach me Eirin"
>>No. 20976
[x] "Teach me Eirin."

Not sure what to make of Eirin at this point. It's obvious she's lost a couple of screws from her usual persona, but still...I wanna see where this goes.
>>No. 20977
[x] "Teach me Eirin."

Hopefully she isn't just screwing with us. I want to believe.
>>No. 20979
[x] Stand by your word.
-[x] "We might be 'mere children' as you say, but most couples were at some point and they went along just fine"
-[x] "I really appreciate the sentiment, but I want us to learn things by ourselves. So, the answer no."

Am I too late to save the story? Well, that won't stop me from trying.
The reasons for my choice can be found on previous updates but let me say something just in case: do you want to respond to Kaguya's insecurity by... making all her fears come true? No matter Eirin's good intentions, at the end of the day, Shirou will be judged by his actions.
And all for what? For burning some necessary stages in a relationship? Why? He's either a teenager or on his early twenties and she's immortal! Why the heck do they need to hurry up?
>>No. 20980
>>20979

>“She’ll understand. I can help her understand as well. It eventually won’t be a secret. Just until you manage to reach a good balance. Right now things seem tense and not easily resolvable. Anyone could tell from but a glance.”

This swayed my vote most to have Eirin help. If Shirou gets through this alright then he'll be able to stay with Kaguya and have Eirin's support/happiness as well. Kaguya won't know until she is happy enough to the point where it won't matter and even if she isn't Eirin will sway her. Eirin's help is worth the risk.

You'll only survive if you die, anon.
>>No. 20982
Anon, I am disappoint. A proposal that clearly and tangibly affects the outcome of the story and there's justification along the lines of mere curiosity? This may just be the equivalent of signing a high-interest loan without knowing if you'll make the payments.

Again, for the record, there are no exclusively bad or good choices. Whatever happens here is fine by me. Things just have different outcomes and nothing I have in mind is bad for the sake of being bad. I'm pretty tired of getting accused of stupid shit like 'punishing' or 'despair' or whatever. I really don't get the impression that you will make your bed and lie in it. Past experience makes me jaded.

>>20979
You have your head on right. No, I'm not saying your choice is the way to go, I'm saying that you're the only one here that has bothered to connect other happenings with this choice for better or worse. Things don't happen in a vacuum and justification and development depends on context and what has happened in the past. Inb4 this is interpreted as this is the right choice. I simply want others to maybe think a bit critically. That's all.

>Sounds kind of sexual
Basically everything she says is sexual, damn it. Eirin is not running a finishing school.

I am aware I'm not a great writer, or perhaps not even an average one but this systematic failure to get ideas across may spell the end for me as far as effort goes.I don't want to lower my standards, otherwise there's no point to any of this. I mad. I very mad that for every step taken seemingly forward there's two back.
>>No. 20987
>>20982

>A proposal that clearly and tangibly affects the outcome of the story and there's justification along the lines of mere curiosity?

Not really. Is it really that bad that you have written Eirin as more sympathetic recently? I think that is pretty good writing. If this was all a plot to trick Shirou and Kaguya then even better. You have certainly fooled me.

I have already explained myself in >>20980 but I suppose I will go further.

Shirou doesn't want to lie to Kaguya. He has already said this to her and made good on it by telling her about his kiss with Eirin. Being honest was a great move here. Unfortunately, I lean more towards Eirin in believing that lieing to your loved ones can be beneficial.

Yes, I know there was some other questionable parts. Those all factor in to whether Shirou trusts Eirin or not.

It makes me happy when you write if that makes you feel better. You write manipulative characters flawlessly. Aside from that I can't judge you on your writing quality because I am not the best writer. Sorry about my grammar and whatnot and I am sure that I missed some topics here, but I felt I needed to get this out sooner rather than later.
>>No. 20988
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[X] Respectfully decline

Previous just-before-I-had-to-leave vote deleted in favor of current I-know-that-was-a-bad-idea-but-I-don't-what-else-to-say vote.

Whether this is an intentional trap on Eirin's part, or just happens to work out that way, this situation is clearly structured in such a way that Eirin basically gets what she wants no matter what and stands to lose very little.

Shirou, on the other hand, stands to lose a lot.
If things work out as Eirin suggests, then that's all fine and dandy, but what if they don't?
Worst-case scenario, Kaguya gets hurt, Shirou gets the bulk of the blame, and Eirin makes good on her threats and disposes of him.

She could be genuinely trying to help here, but it could just as easily be an attempt to set Shirou up for a fall. Or, possibly it's yet another "test".

Regardless, there's little guarantee that things will work out exactly as Eirin supposes they will, especially if she has no real investment in any one specific outcome despite being a primary factor in achieving that outcome.

If things are to succeed between Shirou and Kaguya, it should be by their efforts, since they're the ones who want that success and stand to benefit from it.
>>No. 20992
>>20988
>She could be genuinely trying to help here, but it could just as easily be an attempt to set Shirou up for a fall.
This is what i thought too at first. My first thought was that she wants them to break up and send him away at the worst. Since the forceful return from the trip, and Kaguya's reaction towards it, she behaved strangely. Perhaps standing up to her made her change her approach or she wants to make him into a fine man worthy of Kaguya. Plus, there is something going on between Kaguya and Eirin that we have no idea about.

>Regardless, there's little guarantee that things will work out exactly as Eirin supposes they will
You are probably right again. The chances are very low that something good will come out her help but while reading it some times i thought she was serious and wants to honestly help. Wanting to take care of your own things is fine and all but everyone gets help from someone.

Only a fool would bet on something like that.

So the choice should be: Accept her help or not. With the questions asked if she wants to actually help Shirou or just screw him over. And if you accept it, how much would this hurt Kaguya?
But >>20979 and >>20988 already explained it better than i ever could.
I think what Teruyo wanted to say with >>20982 is that you need to come to your own conclusion without blindly voting without any thoughts behind it.
>>No. 20998
[X] Respectfully decline

Nothing particularly meaty to say. 20988 summed it up, for me.
>>No. 21000
[X] Respectfully decline
>>No. 21004
>>20988

>Whether this is an intentional trap on Eirin's part, or just happens to work out that way, this situation is clearly structured in such a way that Eirin basically gets what she wants no matter what and stands to lose very little.

If you assume that Eirin doesn't care about Shirou at all then she will not gain anything from this. If you believe in Eirin then this will "do her good". This is completely ignoring Kaguya, but I will get to that later.

>If things work out as Eirin suggests, then that's all fine and dandy, but what if they don't?

I can turn this question right back at you. What will happen if Shirou completely ignores and pushes away Eirin?
Kaguya and Shirou finding happiness on their own would be a great ending, but that is just unrealistic. Eirin is not going to disappear if we turn her away here. She will either clamp up after this or keep pestering Shirou. It will keep building up until Kaguya/Eirin/Shirou can't take it anymore. I'm not really sure what will happen then. I am sure that Kaguya will not be willing to completely forsake her friend that made her immortal, dropped an extremely prestigious position and protected her for years.

I can give an example: Eirin doesn't mind lying to Kaguya. She could just say that Shirou made a move on her and Kaguya would have even more reason to suspect him. With enough time and pressure Kaguya might start believing Eirin and Shirou will be fucked.

I believe Eirin already told Shirou where her help would lead.

>She could be genuinely trying to help here, but it could just as easily be an attempt to set Shirou up for a fall. Or, possibly it's yet another "test".

This is what the core of the argument is. Do we trust Eirin or not?

>Regardless, there's little guarantee that things will work out exactly as Eirin supposes they will, especially if she has no real investment in any one specific outcome despite being a primary factor in achieving that outcome.

Don't forget that Eirin is the strongest and smartest person in the mansion and that she holds the most sway over Kaguya.

Eirin's investment is Kaguya's happiness. She is going to do whatever it takes to make Kaguya happy. Kaguya cares for Shirou so it makes sense that Eirin would like Kaguya to make the most of these feelings. Eirin has experience so it isn't too far-fetched that she knows heart ache.

>If things are to succeed between Shirou and Kaguya, it should be by their efforts, since they're the ones who want that success and stand to benefit from it.

If Shirou tunnel visions on Kaguya there is no way this will have a happy ending. If you can't take anything else from my argument please take that.

Hopefully that will be enough. I don't want anon to screw this up. Sorry for making the same excuse twice but with more votes going to the wrong choice this really needed to get put out ASAP.
>>No. 21006
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>>Kaguya and Shirou finding happiness on their own would be a great ending, but that is just unrealistic.

What is more unrealistic?
A guy and a girl finding happiness together by working at it together, or a guy and a girl finding happiness together because the guy had sex with the girl's long-time friend?

>>If you assume that Eirin doesn't care about Shirou at all then she will not gain anything from this. If you believe in Eirin then this will "do her good".

I'm pretty sure her getting laid for the first time in a long time would count as a "gain", and last time I checked you don't have to have an actual emotional attachment to someone to have sex with them.

>>I can give an example: Eirin doesn't mind lying to Kaguya. She could just say that Shirou made a move on her and Kaguya would have even more reason to suspect him. With enough time and pressure Kaguya might start believing Eirin and Shirou will be fucked.

So, you're saying we shouldn't decline Eirin's "help" (which will almost certainly entail having sex with her) because she might accuse him of making a move on her?
And him choosing to actually having sex with her couldn't be used against him in a similar manner, why, exactly?

Why is Shirou worse-off being accused of something he didn't do than if he was accused of something he did do?
>>No. 21007
>>21006

>What is more unrealistic?
>A guy and a girl finding happiness together by working at it together, or a guy and a girl finding happiness together because the guy had sex with the girl's long-time friend?

It is unrealistic because Shirou can't ignore Eirin in this situation.

Eirin already told Shirou that Kaguya won't know until it doesn't matter anymore. Sure it is a risk but it is something I am willing to take to ensure a good relationship.

>I'm pretty sure her getting laid for the first time in a long time would count as a "gain", and last time I checked you don't have to have an actual emotional attachment to someone to have sex with them.

Fine then. Eirin gets to have sex with Shirou so that Kaguya and Shirou can be happy. Looks kind of weird when you put it down so dry I know. My main point here was that Eirin stands to lose Kaguya's happiness; I'm sorry for fucking that up a bit. I must have lost my thought there and I'll probably pick it back up again when I think about this later.

>Why is Shirou worse-off being accused of something he didn't do than if he was accused of something he did do?

I must have explained this wrong. My point was that Eirin could go to Kaguya and tell her about having sex with Shirou even if he didn't do anything. Regardless of what we pick here we would be fucked over either way. Better to go with the choice where we shack up with Eirin and have a chance at her not telling Kaguya then to get her pissed and lie to Kaguya. Of course this is assuming that Eirin wants to make Kaguya hate Shirou.

It is better to take the gamble and get help from Eirin. If you see the logic in my posts then hopefully you can agree that is the safer option as well.
>>No. 21010
>>21007
>It is unrealistic because Shirou can't ignore Eirin in this situation.
Why? I may be a bit slow, but this point is not clearly explained in any of your posts.
>Eirin already told Shirou that Kaguya won't know until it doesn't matter anymore. Sure it is a risk but it is something I am willing to take to ensure a good relationship.
So that's the reason? 'She told me that's okay?' and how in the heck this ensures a good relationship? It doesn't. It's as uncertain as trying to work it out with Kaguya but with an added risk.
I honestly don't see the point of picking this choice, except to force Teruyo to write a h-scene.
>If Shirou tunnel visions on Kaguya there is no way this will have a happy ending.
Again, I can't see any justification. Isn't that how all normal relationships work?
>Don't forget that Eirin is the strongest and smartest person in the mansion and that she holds the most sway over Kaguya.
Her intelligence can't apply to feelings because it isn't an exact science. I'm not saying that I don't trust her (which would be an entirely valid reason, mind you), I'm saying that she may screw up by mistake. Again, the risks are too big and the 'prize' is uncertain.
>Kaguya and Shirou finding happiness on their own would be a great ending, but that is just unrealistic. Eirin is not going to disappear if we turn her away here. She will either clamp up after this or keep pestering Shirou. It will keep building up until Kaguya/Eirin/Shirou can't take it anymore. I'm not really sure what will happen then.
Remember the official policy: 'Don't negotiate with terrorists'

Now, seriously, I'm not sure how they can get a good ending, but what I'm sure is that they won't get it by surrendering to threats. If that's your main reason for going on with this then...
>>No. 21011
Somewhere deep within his lair, Teruyo is reading the debate and saying "Just as planned." Bravo for actually making anon think.
>>No. 21012
[X] Respectfully decline
>>No. 21013
>>21007
>>It is unrealistic because Shirou can't ignore Eirin in this situation.

Sorry, but I don't really see how not having sex with someone translates into ignoring them.

>>Eirin already told Shirou that Kaguya won't know until it doesn't matter anymore.

No, she did not. She said:
>>It eventually won’t be a secret. Just until you manage to reach a good balance.

Now, I could be wrong about this, but I seriously doubt there's ever truly a good time to drop a bombshell like "oh yeah, I had sex with your friend" let alone a time where it would not even matter.

>>Sure it is a risk but it is something I am willing to take to ensure a good relationship.
How noble.

>>Fine then. Eirin gets to have sex with Shirou so that Kaguya and Shirou can be happy. Looks kind of weird when you put it down so dry I know.

Yeah, see, they have words for that kind of "weird". Words like "unrealistic" and "suspicious".

>>My point was that Eirin could go to Kaguya and tell her about having sex with Shirou even if he didn't do anything. Regardless of what we pick here we would be fucked over either way. Better to go with the choice where we shack up with Eirin and have a chance at her not telling Kaguya then to get her pissed and lie to Kaguya.


Your whole point is that it's better to cheat on Kaguya with Eirin because if we don't Eirin might get mad and lie to Kaguya about Shirou cheating on her. With Eirin. You're saying we should avoid being accused of doing something we didn't do by doing that very thing and hoping we don't get accused of doing it.

One big problem with this plan of yours, though. It relies heavily upon Eirin keeping it a secret when she explicitly stated she's not going to keep it a secret.
>>No. 21014
>Your whole point is that it's better to cheat on Kaguya with Eirin because if we don't Eirin might get mad and lie to Kaguya about Shirou cheating on her.
lol what. I don't know where you read that if you accept her offer that you need to jump her right here right now.
It does not matter what we do anyway. If Eirin wants to screw Shirou over she just does it and Kaguya might or might not believe her.
Everyone thinks that she is the cold hearted Antagonist of this story who does everything to make his life miserable.
No one wants to cheat on Kaguya, just know some restraint and don't go for her. Even if you decline now she will just come again another time.
>How noble.
Not noble but just risky. Higher risk for a possible high outcome - that is what i think.
>>No. 21015
>>21010

>Why? I may be a bit slow, but this point is not clearly explained in any of your posts.

If Eirin is ignored in Kaguya's and Shirou's happiness then a good end can't be achieved. This is my most important point.
>>21004 has an example of what happens if we ignore Eirin and never make an effort to appease her.

>So that's the reason? 'She told me that's okay?' and how in the heck this ensures a good relationship? It doesn't. It's as uncertain as trying to work it out with Kaguya but with an added risk.

The biggest obstacle to Kaguya good end is Eirin. If Shirou pisses Eirin off or if Eirin does not think Shirou is good enough for Kaguya then he is fucked. Getting Eirin's support will clear the largest obstacle and pretty much ensure a good relationship.

Eirin won't let anyone find out about this until she wants them to. She is the strongest and most intelligent in the mansion and would definitely notice something like a rabbit watching them. If only Shirou and Eirin know there is no risk in Kaguya finding out.

Whether you think this is risky depends on if you trust Eirin. We know that Eirin has not decided to remove Shirou from Gensokyo and even let him go on a trip alone with Kaguya. If Eirin really wanted Shirou gone she could do so at any time and just console Kaguya through it. Eirin would have an unlimited amount of time to make Kaguya forget.
Since Eirin has not removed Shirou she thinks that Shirou can benefit either he or Kaguya be being there. By receiving this help we can kill two birds with one stone.

If all I wanted was an Eirin H-scene I would have voted for Eirin prior to this. I am just trying to bring this story to a good end.

>Again, I can't see any justification. Isn't that how all normal relationships work?

You just gave me the justification. Shirou can't ignore Eirin.

>Her intelligence can't apply to feelings because it isn't an exact science. I'm not saying that I don't trust her (which would be an entirely valid reason, mind you), I'm saying that she may screw up by mistake. Again, the risks are too big and the 'prize' is uncertain.

Incorporate experience into intelligence for a bit. Eirin is extremely old and must have been in a relationship at some point. There is a good chance that she has been through something like this and just wants to help her two friends get through it. Don't forget what Eirin said, "You need help, don’t you see it? Help I can provide. Both of you are mere children. You’ll get nowhere at this rate." I agree with Eirin. It won't be good to let this relationship with Kaguya stagnate.
The only way this could screw up is if either Eirin or Shirou tell Kaguya about it or someone sees them. I am sure that Eirin can take care of the later part and then it is just a matter of keeping it quiet.

>Remember the official policy: 'Don't negotiate with terrorists'

I have never liked this saying. Sure it works in order to get across a message to terrorists but it ends there. Any personal attachment to the person held captive completely kills this saying. Don't think for a second that Bush or Obama would let terrorists kill one of their children.

>Now, seriously, I'm not sure how they can get a good ending, but what I'm sure is that they won't get it by surrendering to threats. If that's your main reason for going on with this then...

Depends on the way you look at it. I see this as Eirin genuinely wanting to help will getting help herself. Something akin to a fair trade while building trust between the two of them. If you see this as a threat it is fine too. It still does not change that getting help from Eirin is the better choice even if it is not as safe.

Relationships are not always safe. Time to take the big plunge and guarantee our happiness right now.

Yeah this is late but I was up until like five in the morning argueing. I needed to get some sleep before I leave today.
>>No. 21016
Next post!
>>21013

>Sorry, but I don't really see how not having sex with someone translates into ignoring them.

Of course you are right here. Shirou could also spend time with Eirin to hopefully get her on his side. This will probably take quite a bit of time and Shirou might not be able to wait that long. If Kaguya and Shirou really do not get anywhere then the relationship will fall apart because of stagnation. Being with Eirin will cure Eirin's happiness and Kaguya's happiness.

>Now, I could be wrong about this, but I seriously doubt there's ever truly a good time to drop a bombshell like "oh yeah, I had sex with your friend" let alone a time where it would not even matter.

For the part I didn't quote I will go ahead and say that I just rephrased what Eirin said. They have the same meaning.

When Kaguya finds out about this I am sure she will be angry. If Eirin and Shirou plan it out well, I will remind you again that Eirin is extremely intelligent, then the blow should be softened quite a bit. Between the two of them they should be able to explain to Kaguya and after that setback everything should be fine.

Think of it another way; which option is safer here? Letting Kaguya know that Shirou and Eirin had sex after a lot of time has passed and explaining to her? Not being with Eirin and losing the most powerful ally in this endeavor and probably setting her against you?

>Your whole point is that it's better to cheat on Kaguya with Eirin because if we don't Eirin might get mad and lie to Kaguya about Shirou cheating on her. With Eirin. You're saying we should avoid being accused of doing something we didn't do by doing that very thing and hoping we don't get accused of doing it.

That was just an example. My real point was:

>Eirin is not going to disappear if we turn her away here. She will either clamp up after this or keep pestering Shirou. It will keep building up until Kaguya/Eirin/Shirou can't take it anymore. I'm not really sure what will happen then. I am sure that Kaguya will not be willing to completely forsake her friend that made her immortal, dropped an extremely prestigious position and protected her for years.

Shirou will not win over Eirin in an affection competition. Especially right now when Kaguya can't even get her feelings across. He needs to avoid that and getting help from Eirin is the best way.

Anon has a right to be cautious around Eirin after what has happened recently. Don't let that caution cause you to stagger and try to take the "safe" option. Trying to maintain the status quo won't work anymore. There is no safe option here. Eirin could still make Kaguya hate Shirou even if he doesn't do anything right now with Eirin.

After all of my arguments there is still a chance that Eirin was just doing this to get Kaguya to hate Shirou by his own actions. If you are reading this then you have read the rest of this debate and hopefully agree that is unlikely. Even if you do not agree with me it is so late in the story we can't waste any more time. Ignoring the stagnation it is obvious that this playthrough is coming to an end and we need to reach a conclusion. You'll only live if you die, achieve happiness with your own hands, etc...
>>No. 21019
>>When Kaguya finds out about this I am sure she will be angry. If Eirin and Shirou plan it out well, I will remind you again that Eirin is extremely intelligent, then the blow should be softened quite a bit. Between the two of them they should be able to explain to Kaguya and after that setback everything should be fine.

Has it occurred to you that any feelings of anger, hurt, or betrayal felt by Kaguya as a result of this would be completely justified?
Wouldn't any attempts, especially by Eirin, to make her "understand" essentially be manipulating her into approving of something she has every right to be against?

If you did wrong by someone, but convince them you didn't really wrong them, does that really negate the fact that you actually did wrong them?

Remember what Teruyo told us.
No matter which way the story ends, Eirin is pretty much guaranteed to be happy in one way or another. The same cannot be said of anyone else.

>>You'll only live if you die, achieve happiness with your own hands, etc...

>>achieve happiness with your own hands
I'm really struggling to see how this is in support or your particular position of "Shirou and Kaguya can't do it on their own, let Eirin help out".
You're not doing anything "with your own hands" when you're letting someone else do most of the work.
>>No. 21020
>>21019

>Has it occurred to you that any feelings of anger, hurt, or betrayal felt by Kaguya as a result of this would be completely justified?

Yes. I can't deny that those feelings would be justified.

>Wouldn't any attempts, especially by Eirin, to make her "understand" essentially be manipulating her into approving of something she has every right to be against?

If you want to change "understand" or "convince" to manipulate you can. They are close to the same meaning, but they have different connotations. It depends on how you look at this problem.

>If you did wrong by someone, but convince them you didn't really wrong them, does that really negate the fact that you actually did wrong them?

It does negate the wrong. This isn't really "wrong" unless someone finds something to make it "wrong". If Shirou and Eirin convince Kaguya then it will be like it never happened.

>No matter which way the story ends, Eirin is pretty much guaranteed to be happy in one way or another. The same cannot be said of anyone else.

I'm sure she would be happy about kicking Shirou out of Gensokyo if this ends badly.

>I'm really struggling to see how this is in support or your particular position of "Shirou and Kaguya can't do it on their own, let Eirin help out".
>You're not doing anything "with your own hands" when you're letting someone else do most of the work.

The saying works here because Shirou will be getting Eirin's support with his own hands. If Eirin were to get Shirou and Kaguya together with no input from either of the two lovebirds it would not apply. As I typed it out I had a feeling that I would have to explain it at some point, but I just finished watching Akagi and Kaiji and wanted to reference those two shows in a choice that is essentially a gamble for Shirou's future.
>>No. 21021
I can't help but feel that every time I post I sway the vote unintentionally. If you think I'm leaning to either side, don't. I'm not most of the time - I'm only human.

The debate that has gone here is fine. More than that, it's pretty nice actually. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be swaying any new voters as there haven't been any (or any changes in opinion for that matter). Things are deadlocked as of now. I don't want to write with a deadlock or something like a one-vote majority (I mean, this is important so it feels unfair to give so much power to the one vote).

What I'm saying is: Vote if you haven't (maybe justifying with a sentence or not) or if you have and aren't sure about your choice retract or change your vote. I'll give this around a day (or less depending on what happens). I'd rather not have to work with the sole majority vote for something that should have the populous united in understandming (I'm saying that no matter the outcome you shouldn't sabotage what happens). If need be I'll just flip a coin but that method, while somewhat fair, may be unfulfilling.
>>No. 21023
Teruyo is right.

There probably isn't any more reason to argue. Go ahead and continue if you want. Unless the people against Eirin want me to say more I'll just sit back and wait.
>>No. 21024
>>Unless the people against Eirin want me to say more I'll just sit back and wait.

The only thing I would care to add is not really all that related to the debate itself.
Namely, when it comes to high-stakes bets against extremely long odds where you stand to lose a lot, Kaiji is not exactly what I would consider to be a good example to aspire to.

I do have to wonder what the odds are of Eirin having something like that ear-drilling doohickey, though...
>>No. 21025
>>21024

Kaiji's philosophy was in the right place.
Let's just ignore all the bad stuff.

ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA
>>No. 21027
Lot of discussion while I was away. Time to vote then. I like what >>20988 and >>20979 say. To tell you all the truth, I'm voting for

[X] Respectfully decline

only because the other options seem like they'll end up creating an uncomfortable atmosphere.

Muddled thoughts, but I'm sticking with my vote.
>>No. 21028
>>21025
He risked everything for the slim chance of a high outcome. That's what i am aiming for here.
>>No. 21036
>>21025
>>21028

I dunno. That, to me, feels like looking to Tony Montana as an inspirational example of "making it big" from nothing, or Romeo and Juliet as the ideal example of young love.
As good as it might seem so long as you ignore the parts where everything comes crashing down on them in the end, the problem with taking that view is that the "bad stuff" is the whole point.

Having guts and the willingness to lose everything for the sake of a big payout is all well and good, but it's equally important to know when to simply walk away from the table, or recognize when a bet isn't worth taking in the first place. Otherwise you wind up like Mr. Mullet McCriesalot, constantly walking away from situations you shouldn't have allowed yourself to be in in the first place, lucky to be alive, but otherwise barely better off than when you started, if not worse.
>>No. 21044
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Do not anger the bunny. Who knows what might happen.
>>No. 21045
>>21044

Nothing. Nothing ever happens with Reisen.
>>No. 21047
>>21045

It's sad because it's true.
>>No. 21056
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all by myself
>>No. 21058
Sorry, meant to have been writing but a combination of things have delayed me (my laziness included). There'll be an update sometime later, potentially a little something extra too. Think next 7-12 hours for a time frame. Looks like it did come down to a narrow majority after all.

>>21044
>>21045
>>21047
>>21056
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>>No. 21079
“I’m sorry, but I can’t accept your offer.”

“I see.” Eirin sinks into a quieter state of mind. Her eyes shut, you don’t know how to carry about. The now empty flask lies adjacent and ignored, much like you are. And, like the empty receptacle, you’re unable to do anything but wait on Eirin. “Amazing how quickly the weather can change this time of year,” Eyes still closed, she mutters quietly, “It was sunny just a little while ago but soon there’ll be clouds painting everything grey.”

“Are you upset with me?” Her non sequitur is a little too much for you. It may be that you’re not as rational as she is, but nothing as important-sounding as her proposal can surely be forgotten that quickly.

“Why would I be?” Her eyes open and she paws around for the empty flask, stowing it away in an unseen pocket.
“Your offer seemed to be something you wanted. So my not accepting it could upset you.”
“Ah, yes. You’re mistaken about it being something I wanted. It was a suggestion, an alternative, given so that maybe things would work out well.”
“Really? That’s not how I interpreted it. Your offer was... very personal.” As undermining as it might be to your rationality, you look at her form and admire her for all the well shaped and womanly features she boasts.
“I won’t lose any sleep over your refusal. If I was dead-set on accomplishing something, it would be accomplished.”

Though her words are incredibly arrogant, you know they are equally true. Eirin is a woman that will get what she wants, however she wants. Like it or not, you have to admit that most of the interaction with you and the ‘suggestions’ made are niceties. She involved you in the now resolved Lunarian incident because you asked to be involved but as soon as you shirked your commitment she neatly took care of everything by herself. As ridiculous as the thought might have been when you first met her, and after all the banter, she may be the closest thing to a deity that you know. She certainly seems to be omnipotent, somewhat omniscient, and has a tendency to be where she wants when she wants.

“That’s that? No coercion or subterfuge? No bringing this up again when I’m drunk and shanghaiing me?”
“No.”
“Eh, I’m feeling a bit skeptical.”
“My, it sounds to me like you want me to trick you or force you into this.” She smiles.
“Well, if our positions were changed I might try-”
“Yes,” Eirin continues to speak, ignoring what you’re saying, “It seems like you wish to be forced into bondage, to proceed only through my instructions. Told how and when to act - eating, breathing, sleeping, thinking, and even loving in the way that I determine. Babied and guided like no other, my supervision would be complete.”

There’s an uncomfortable silence as you picture that. A lot of telling off, punishment and, for some reason, silky sheets. The conclusion your reach about that very authoritative (and yet so liberating) possibility makes you shudder.

It takes a playful prod accompanied by a wily smile to snap you out of it. “It looks like I hit the mark.”

“No, not really. I was just thinking about...” You strain your braincells, “...stuff.”
“Ah, yes. ‘Stuff’. Involving ropes and perfume, I’ve no doubt.”
“How did you-?!” You blush like a embarrassed schoolgirl. “I mean,” Your voice nearly breaks, you cough and try again, “stuff like what is for dinner tonight. None of that kind of other stuff. Definitely not.”

“Hm. This may be why people are attracted to you.” She chuckles softly. Something about the way she said that makes you think that she’s talking about herself specifically. “This affair is over and done with as far as I’m concerned. What tomorrow may bring is best left for later.”

“You wouldn’t mind me sharing this with Kaguya then?”
“And why would you do that?”
“I’ve promised to be completely open with her. This strikes me as the sort of offer she’d want to know about.”
“Go ahead then. I certainly don’t mind if she knows.” She nods, adding, “It is interesting how you’re willing to share even though she hasn’t been as honest with you.”
“Just what do you mean by that?”
“You should know. You mentioned the feelings issue earlier and how it had been mostly one-sided. Besides, I’m not blind.”
“If you have something you want to say, just say it. The cryptic way you people say things is tiresome.”
“I’ve got nothing to say,” You watch as she grins, looking pleased with herself, “It’s not my place to say anything. You declined my offer to help out.”
“That’s adorable.” It’s with some annoyance that you accept that you’ll get nothing more definitive out of the Lunarian. It obviously pleases her to see you acknowledge that she has the upper hand; If she had anything to drink, she’d probably be toasting herself in congratulations.

As the minutes, and then hours, pass there’s nothing terribly exciting that keeps you tethered to Eirin. After your refusal she regains most of the noble persona that she usually displays, making the wild girl you saw earlier seem like a bad joke. This means very directed and concise conversation. Talk is about the weather, the practical applications of developed compounds on protein chains and, oddly enough, daytime TV. The last topic is almost enough to cause you to scamper away.

Only Reisen’s timely arrival prevents that. She reminds Eirin of something she had to do at the clinic and you’re off the hook. Off the hook but not better off for it. Things are different during dinner. You eat with just Kaguya, Eirin presumably still busy with clinic affairs and Reisen only appearing to serve before going to help at the clinic.

“So how was your afternoon? Had fun?” You get the feeling that she’s poking fun at you.
“Interesting things happened. And you? Bet you missed me.”
“Hardly. I completely forgot you even lived here.”
“Ouch.”
“I remembered eventually.” She smiles and eats a bit of plain rice.
“I’m lucky then.”
“You live with me, that’s a given.”
“I’ll be more mindful next time, my princess.”
“Ugh,” As expected your word choice got a reaction from her, “Right, so tell me about what made the afternoon interesting? Don’t tell me you ended up kissing her again for some boorish reason.”

All things considered, it’s a nice and peaceful meal with just about the same quantity of playful teasing.

[] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal
[] Keep things lighthearted
>>No. 21080
[X] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal

Even if Kaguya is holding back some things, showing her that we are willing to put things in the open is important.
>>No. 21081
[X] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal

sure, if we're going to keep this line, let's do it properly.
>>No. 21082
[x] Keep things lighthearted
hmmmmmmmmm
>>No. 21083
[X] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal

Oh Eirin, will your mindfuckery ever cease?
>>No. 21086
[x] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal

Honesty!
>>No. 21096
[X] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal

While "interesting" is hardly how I would have put it and it certainly might kill the lighthearted mood, she did ask, and seeing as she was the one who asked Shirou to spend time with Eirin in the first place, she should know just what her little favor brought about.
>>No. 21099
[x] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal
>>No. 21111
[X] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal
Kaguya needs to start taking care of Shirou or he's gonna get taken away~
>>No. 21115
[x] Tell Kaguya about Eirin’s proposal.
>>No. 21117
Hey, so I would really love to update but alas my muse has abandoned me. Sorry. I know. So I'm going to take a nap, maybe have a drink and play games to try to energize and motivate myself. Ideally this will only mean a oouple of hours without me writing (6 maybe?).

In the meantime, I'd like to ask something; How does anon feel about sex in their stories? Despite my perverted nature, I personally don't like too much smut in a story. Side material is fine, but if it's one (reasonably) meaningless exploit after the other it feels like I'm reading a fapfic and can't take things very seriously. I know the answer ultimately hinges on the author's ability to mesh narrative together with the porn so I'm just asking in the most general of situations. And yes, it is relevant to this story. In case you haven't noticed there has been only one proper sex scene in the 2 years I have written (peppered with a few small morsels) and I'm not exactly eager to write many more unless it serves a storytelling purpose (like character development).

Well, maybe no one will notice this until I update the story, making it a pointless post. Extra credit goes for those who take a stab at trying to figure out what the likeliest scenario for sex is in this story at this point in time (or until it ends). Where, who, and what ('why' is double extra credit) if you will.
>>No. 21118
AHA!
We'll be forced by Eirin and her drugs to fuck the poor moonbunny who's tied by ropes either to "train" us or sufuckprise Kaguya!
(i know i know, jk)
also, sex? yes plea... *ahem*
Its up to you really. As much as i enjoy good fapfiction (as you should know) it ultimately depends on the suitability to the story. Also, wouldnt mind if it was toned down for the sake of properness.
>>No. 21119
>>21118

Fund it.
>>No. 21120
>>21117
I am not really a fan of sex scenes.
>if it's one (reasonably) meaningless exploit after the other it feels like I'm reading a fapfic
>I'm not exactly eager to write many more unless it serves a storytelling purpose
Well, you said it yourself. If you write about a story like this there need to be sex scenes.
>>No. 21122
>>21117

Sex scenes are good. People that do not like them can just skip over them, right? Even if you would rather people read them, with sex scenes it is bound to happen to at least one person.

Kaguya in her room within the next few updates. Trying to keep Shirou under control.Inb4 "NEEDLE TIME SHIROU-SAN"
>>No. 21123
>>21117

If you want to write one, I doubt anyone is going to mind. Personally, I also wouldn't mind if you didn't. Up to you.

>>21118
Are you from pooshlmer, or just trolling?
>>No. 21124
If stories are like cakes, then sex scenes are the frosting. Whether it's just a little dollop on the top, or slathered all over the thing, it can add to the overall experience, but is hardly a necessity, and can actually take away from the experience if you overdo it.

As for this particular story, there is now only one possible scenario where I can picture sex occurring: While walking through the halls, alone, Shirou gets knocked out from behind. When he finally comes to, he finds himself in a vaguely familiar-looking shack, completely naked and tied to a chair with an equally-naked Mokou straddling his lap.
Despite her complete and utter absence from the story for quite some time, it turns out that she has actually been keeping a close eye on the goings-on at Eientei for quite some time, up to and including Shirou's running away with Kaguya. Having seen just enough of their activities to arrive at a similar conclusion as Suika did, she realized the perfect way to get her ultimate revenge against her long-time nemesis...

>>No. 21125
>>21124

For the sake of all that is Touhou, FUND IT!
>>No. 21128
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>>21124

How is she going to get revenge?
>>No. 21129
>>21124
is to have sex with Shirou while Kaguya is watching. Which will lead to hatesex with Shirou in the middle. Until suddenly Eirin appears
>>No. 21130
>>21124
>>21129
Oh wow! kind of seriously want!
>>No. 21131
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Well, writing. I'm a bit pressed for time and busy but should have something within the next two hours hopefully. I've gotten myself two very inspiring muses (image related).

>>21124
...There goes my plan. Since you guessed it I can't possibly do it now, I mean the element of surprise is what was so beautiful about it. That and the fact that Mokou would be assaulting poor Shirou with unrelenting intensity, enthralled with being able to take away Kaguya's toy. She'd grind her hips down hard with purpose, laughing maniacally all the while. But yeah, where's the fun in doing that now?

As for the rest of the class, the who may be right/partially right but the other w's are not. Something to think about I guess. There's no guarantee we'll get to a sex scene but anticipation can be as fun sometimes.
>>No. 21132
>>21131

Not enough hot glue.

Fuck, those two are expensive. I didn't have enough money for both. It isn't my fault that Eirin has to go without her princess, right?
>>No. 21135
>>21131
[x] hot glue Kaguya.
>>No. 21144
Call me paranoid, but I fear that immediately following a sex scene Shriou would wake up in the real world after hot gluing a figurine. Wait, wasn't this talked about before?
>>No. 21145
>>21144

Albion GOOD END
>>No. 21146
>>21131
Men that'd have been awesome.
Heh, if I remember correctly, your Mokou was very, very good. I kinda miss her, but this is Kaguya county so she can't just really stop by I guess.
>>No. 21147
>>...There goes my plan. Since you guessed it I can't possibly do it now, I mean the element of surprise is what was so beautiful about it. That and the fact that Mokou would be assaulting poor Shirou with unrelenting intensity, enthralled with being able to take away Kaguya's toy. She'd grind her hips down hard with purpose, laughing maniacally all the while. But yeah, where's the fun in doing that now?

Well, instead of that you could have her kill him and skin him to make a Shirou-suit out of him, which she would then wear to infiltrate Eientei. Once in, she would have a series of hilarious close-calls until she finally makes it to Kaguya's inner chambers, where the princess confesses her undying love and demands to make love right there and then. What follows is a comical Scooby-doo-esque chase through the halls of Eientei, ending with the timely intervention of Eirin who unmasks the disguised immortal. Reisen then says something funny, everyone laughs, and then they all go off for tea, cake, and a massive lesbian orgy.
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>>21147

what
>>No. 21149
>>21147

...........yeah, I got nothing for that one.
>>No. 21157
As you can tell, I didn't make the self-imposed deadline. I apologize for that. As I apologize for not having anything now. I've been very busy as of late and a bit of writer's block hasn't helped. I know what I want, where to go, but words aren't as forthcoming. I'll get it eventually. But again pushing back the ETA by at least half a day. I've the feeling that this'll be the last time hopefully.

>>21135
>>21132
What kind of loser do you take me for? Sure I have several PVCs of various characters from various fictional works as well as write interactive fanfiction about characters in said works and... oh. At least I don't- hmm, never mind.

>>21147
You are insane. Never change
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>>21157

Waiting warmly.
>>No. 21165
Kaguya is attentive. You detail your afternoon with Eirin, including the parts were she appeared to be completely out of it. It’s not the best thing to talk over a meal, and you were a bit reticent to bring up the subject to begin with, but it feels like the right thing to do. There’s no banter or jokes as you go along, the princess is quiet and collected as you expected her to be. It wouldn’t be that bad if you only knew what was going on inside her head. With her focused eyes and withdrawn look your already weakly attuned radar is completely scrambled.

The easygoing and light mood that prevailed before is gone, replaced by a curtain of reserve and silence. Your words part the veil timidly, like a light breeze. By the time you’re through talking, the meal is over. There isn’t any dessert, something sweet would seem awfully out of place.

For all her nerve-wrecking calm, Kaguya doesn’t go out of her way to make things more awkward. On the contrary, in a rather disaffected fashion she makes an off-color remark, “My, that is a rather interesting thing for her to propose, isn’t it? Would you like some tea?”

Attempting to get anything further is fruitless. It’s only at your insistence a day or so later that she says something along the lines of “I’ll talk to her about it sometime”.

You did your part. Things seem to be going well. You spend time with the one you care about, doing things that would fit right into one of those visual novels you’ve played. That includes the lovey-dovey picnic date (confined to the dining room due to unrelenting rain). Her affection for you seems to grow and she’s more bold about showing it. It’s enough to, on more than one occasion, make Reisen turn beet red when she walks in to deliver laundry. Tewi jocosely tells you that you would be better off moving in together, even going as far as offering a good deal on a place not too far in the woods somewhere.

The enjoyable days become weeks and soon it’s easy to forget the times where you were just friends. There are reminders here and there that things aren’t perfect; Kaguya keeps things going slowly and reserves herself at times, brushing off attempts to learn what she’s really thinking. Any attempts to take things further are met with stonewalling and tangible discomfort.

“Going at it already?”
“As you can see, we’re having lunch together.”
“Right. Lunch would explain why all the food is on the table and all you’ve got on your face is him.”

Eirin pops in to join you for lunch. You haven’t seen much of her of late, just glimpses of her hard at work and otherwise keeping to herself. Kaguya has ostensibly seen her, though the tone the two now share between them indicates that things aren’t exactly normal. Sparks seem to fly whenever they exchange glances.

“I’m not that hungry anymore.” Kaguya announces, “C’mon let’s go back.”

You follow her, leaving the smiling physician behind. What either of the lunarians is thinking is anyone’s guess and you only bring up the subject as indirectly as you can.

It’s almost winter now and it shows. The sky is a usual tone of grey and the temperature forces you to put on something more than just a thin shirt. The rabbits are staying indoors more often now, their playful frolicking rare. Days like these are best spent under a blanket in tandem with Kaguya, watching something silly together. And that’s how you would have spent it, if not for Kaguya’s sudden change of heart. She claims to want to be alone and shuts you out.

“Where’s you better half?” Tewi asks as you come in to your room. She’s turned the place into a distillery by the looks of it. Tubes and funnels are everywhere.

“What have you done to my room?” And so quickly. In the few hours since you’ve been up this placed has been completely transformed.

“Oh, I’m just taking over. Need a place for all this stuff.” Her reply has that annoying ‘matter-of-fact’ tone to it. You spot a few helping bunnies setting a barrel up in a corner. “So did you do something stupid again?”

“Not really. We were having lunch and then Eirin came in and now I’m here. Hey! That’s my stuff!” You protest how they’re stacking your scant possessions into a dingy little crate.

“Oh relax. You’ll probably move in with Kaguya soon enough. This will make it easier for you to carry your things.” Tewi smiles knowingly, “Or maybe I’m wrong about that?”

“You may as well be. I’m not sure where we stand.”
“You’ve been together for some time now, right? And you love her and she loves you-”
“That’s the thing. I hope she does, but she hasn’t said it.”
“Well, but the sex is good I trust?”
“Um...”
“Haha oh wow,” Tewi laughs, the rabbits seem to do the same, “You haven’t yet? Poor baby, you must be about to explode with all that close contact and no release.”
“It isn’t easy.” You admit tacitly. You don’t really wish to go into it very much right now. Not with the rabbits hearing every word.
“I’ll bet. You know, as a friend, I worry. So let me give you some advice: DO SOMETHING.”
“What great advice.”
“No need to be snide. I’m telling you to do something to move things along. Otherwise you’re just going to stagnate. You’ll die of complications from bl-”
“I get the picture.” Damn rabbits are laughing at you with their eyes. They don’t have this problem. They just go at it like, well, rabbits whenever it suits them.
“I’ll help with anything you need. Think of it as reparations for occupying your room. Oh, and you’ll definitely get some of the product as well, but that’ll take a day or two.”
“Gee, thanks. And all I have to do is put up with the fumes and noise.”
“Glad we have an understanding, friend.”

Wry smiles and shenanigans aside, Tewi has a point. Things are stagnating like this. You’re happy, but tomorrow holds no promises. You can’t bear to imagine what would happen if things ended suddenly. You’d never forgive yourself. As far as you can see it, there’s two ways to go about it. Ideally, they lead to the same outcome - it’s only the initial emphasis that changes.

[] Patch things up with Eirin
[] Work on getting Kaguya to admit her feelings
>>No. 21169
[x] Patch things up with Eirin

Eirin showing up screwed Shirou over. This probably happened a lot over those weeks. Better to make sure Eirin won't get in our way while we are trying to keep things together with Kaguya.
>>No. 21171
>>21169
The choice means more Eirin and Kaguya than you and Eirin. Just to clarify. Though I would agree there are issues there nontheless.
>>No. 21172
wow, that sudden fast-forward scared the shit outta me, like if things were going to end suddenly.
Also, anyone thinks that taking Eirin's help back then would've been Easy Modo?
Anyways, continuing with our recent trend, and trying to work hard on it:
[X] Work on getting Kaguya to admit her feelings
hopefully by taking the initiative. It seems the relationship just hasn't been developing at all. Maybe not seeing each other all the time might work too.
>>No. 21174
>>21171

That works too.

>>21172

I already tried to get everyone to see that getting help from Eirin would have been the better choice. Not that it matters now.

The relationship is stagnating and Shirou can't get Kaguya to fess up with her feelings. With Shirou trying for the past weeks I think it is safe to say that something else needs to be done.
>>No. 21176
[X] Patch things up with Eirin
>>No. 21177
[x] Patch things up with Eirin
We are getting close to the snow end.
>>No. 21178
[x] Work on getting Kaguya to admit her feelings
>>No. 21179
[x] Patch things up with Eirin
>>No. 21180
>>21174
Yeah, i was all for going with Eirin's help as well.
Yet here we are.
Now, this particular choice, i choosed because the update left me feeling that Shirou actually didn't try his best. Not like we should be actively pushing Kaguya to anything, but i mean for Shirou to take the upper hand in the relationship. Mind you, this might also include eventually working on everyone's relationships, since, well, we all DO share a roof.
So instead of taking it as a pushy Shirou, take it as a Shirou who wants to engage emotionally with everyone.
>>No. 21181
[x] Patch things up with Eirin
Try to fix the relationship between the two immortals and give up already.
You're but a breeze in her life. Eirin was, is and will be her mountain.
>>No. 21182
[x] Patch things up with Eirin

If there's any hope for another run, Eirin needs all the love.
>>No. 21183
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>>21182

Either boobinite
>>No. 21190
[X] Work on getting Kaguya to admit her feelings

I want to believe that Shirou can accomplish this if he truly set his mind to it.
I want to believe that he can finally grasp happiness without having to compromise himself or his principles.
I want to believe that, despite his lack of serious progress over the weeks and months, that he will be more focused now that he is properly aware of his lack of progress.
I want to believe there is absolutely nothing at all ominous about the fact that one of the most in-the-know figures in Eientei has taken the liberty of packing up all of Shirou's belongings and has taken over his room.

Then again, I also want to believe that there is a Super Secret Watatsuki Sisters and moon-bunny harem route hidden in here somewhere.

So, yeah.
>>No. 21238
[X] Work on getting Kaguya to admit her feelings
Don't stop
Never give up
Hold your head high and reach the top.
Let the world see what you have got.
Bring it all back to you....
>>No. 21240
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>>21171

Stop playing with your figs, Shirou.

You're making Reisen cry.
>>No. 21246
I apologize for not updating. I've had a lot of work to deal with as of late and haven't had nearly as much time/peace of mind as I've wanted to be able to concentrate on writing. There will probably be something sometime in the near future but I can't quite put an ETA on it. Could be in a couple of hours or over a day from now. I just don't know.

I'll leave you with some food for thought once again more or less stressing what I think is important.
>>/gensokyo/4821

>>21177
Screw you.
>>No. 21247
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>>21246

Fuck I hate threads like those. People that participate in that kind of shit are the ones that made Taisa put GH on hiatus.

I don't think this picture has ever been more relevant. People will complain no matter what you do.
>>No. 21248
>>21246
>Screw you.
This is my opinion after i read the recent updates. Maybe i could have said it nicer but it is just what i think.
The more i try the more i try to convince other people, it just does not seem to go anyway. Insted it seems to be going into the other direction and turns into something horrible. But hey, seriously, who am i to talk. You are the one who complains and is frustrated the most anyway. All those insults on Anon and rants and whatever else you did over the months is proof enough.
>There is no excuse to give up and I have never encouraged you to.
I am not giving up, i just said what i think will happen. Until then i will fight, try to convince other people and give it my best shot to get the most possible out of it.
>at the very least have the decency to do it in one of my threads
Sorry about that, when i read that all the frustration came up once again and i just had to reply to it. The Thread is shit anyway and everyone seemed to blame each for what is going wrong in their eyes so why not. It seemed to belong there.
>I don't care about your opinion about how I'm the worst
I never thought that. You are a good writer and a nice guy. Now you are just making shit up.
>or have a warped view about relationships
Maybe unrealistic and a bit strange and sometimes it does not make much sense. But what is realistic.
>or whatever and much less about what you think of what I write.
I will always say what i think of your writing and the way things are going.
But maybe i was angry and made it sound worse than i wanted to.

Anyway, let us drop this and just concentrate on the story and try to get the best possible end out of it.
>>No. 21249
>>21248
The comments in that paragraph were more directed to the other person and, in general, those who make off-hand remarks like those.

The insult I leveled against you is because that kind of crap honestly annoys me. Any frustration or annoyance you may have percieved or imagined pales in comparison to the reaction that kind of attitude and comment gets from me. If you're (still) reading this story I expect that you're a person of some sense and intellect. Standards go both ways; You may hope that a writer do his best and produce an enjoyable experience and as I writer I expect readers not to be as callous as to appear to write off the story like that. I am not going to change my mind about that ever. If any of you feel that way then there's nothing I can do - I would just ask you to stop reading. I have always put quite a lot of myself in doing the best job I could and have bent over backwards trying to make things the polar opposite of fatalistic and have granted opportunites and encouraged active participation on the reader part to seize the day. It's as inane as the (occasional) unfounded mention of punishment. Every time I ask for an example no one provides one.

I realize that with your explanation, that's not what you're quite saying. But, like the other post, these are also general comments.
>>No. 21287
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Get back to writing Teruyo. You are losing focus.

Whatever happens, i want to see this through until the very end. I did not start this to stop halfway. Give it your best shot, i will stand against all odds and get that Kaguya good end.

Reisen picture totally unrelated to everything.
>>No. 21301
Still alive, Teruyo? We love you. ;_;
>>No. 21345
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We'll be waiting.

Always.
>>No. 21346
>>21345
>that picture

I forgot about that, you son of a bitch.;_;

That said, yes. Waiting warmly, etc.
>>No. 21354
If I continue to be irresponsible there will be an update sometime very soon. Otherwise maybe not until a few days more. Blame life. It's hard to commit words to paper. Maybe I need a push, I'll figure it out eventually.
>>No. 21356
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>>21354

Hooray!
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I want to kneel down and kiss her feet while she whips me with her hair.
Of course while Eirin watches.
>>No. 21362
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>>21361
>>No. 21422
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“Social visit or some sort of business?” Eirin smirks in her usual seductive way, “Maybe you want a physical, so it’s really both?”

Her office looks distinctly more spartan. Charts and diagrams, little touches of personal preference, are missing from walls and several models of the human body are gone. Even her desk looks vacant, the piles of documents and dossiers crowding the top being noticeably feweer in number. “Spring cleaning?”

“Hardly.” She looks her office over, eyes hovering the empty spaces as if tacking inventory of what’s gone. You get the impression that maybe she was just bored. The usual busy countenance she projects is nowhere to be see and there’s no incomplete paperwork on her desk. You sit as she gestures to an empty chair. “That look of yours... I take it you want to make some sort of proclamation again? I warn you that if you try to kiss me again, there’s a high probability that the lipstick I’m wearing will smear.”

“It’s nothing of that sort. I’m here because I’ve noticed that things have been off lately.”
“Trouble in paradise? It’s not my place to say, but that much was obvious to anyone from the beginning. Unfortunately, my offer does not still stand. I’d say it’s because of pride, but rather it is because you’ve made your bed now you should lie in it.”

She offers tea from her thermos. You decline, not feeling particularly thirsty. You think that she’s been cautious, abstaining from being her overtly playful self. What that means, you’re not certain. There’s probably never going to be a guide on how to deal with the wily lunarian. You’d sooner fully understand the secrets the universe than known how to handle her.

“Whatever those issues might be, I’m here to talk about you.” You try to pick your words carefully, “I couldn’t help but notice that your interactions with Kaguya have been a little... off lately.”

She scoffs, “I’m surprised you could notice anything in between behaving like an obedient little puppy and sucking face.” She pauses, looking for a reaction. You don’t have much of a reaction, having anticipated something of the sort. You’re trying to keep things on topic. You expected her to be a bit hostile, if not rude. “Not going to deny it? Or perhaps you’re just going to continue to keep your head in the sand.”

“I’d like to help out however possible. It doesn’t seem right that things are at odds between you.”
“Frankly it’s none of your concern.”
“Kaguya is part of my life and I care about her. You’re also a part of her life so naturally I’ll care about whatever happens.”
“How noble,” she shakes her head, “And rather simplistic of you.”
“You should know better than to expect any different from me,” You say with detached irony. You’ll let her have her fun if it gets her to talk.

She sighs.

“How irksome. A perpetually wannabe white knight.”
“Superhero actually.” You smile, thinking of the times you’ve used that line on Kaguya. “My superpower is conflict resolution and to annoy people.”
“At least one of those powers is extraordinary.”
“Ah, there we are. My other superpower worked. I made you smile.”
“No it didn’t.”

She sighs again. She shrugs as if telling herself that it couldn’t be helped and then smiles. “Well then, how would the indomitable hero help me?”

“How about you start by telling me what exactly is going on?”

She collects herself, summarizing in a single sentence, “Her welfare is my ultimate concern.”

You wait to see if she says anything else. She keeps a straight poker face. It’s not much to go on and it’s something that you’ve heard before. “Well then, has anything changed lately?”

“There is you and how she’s dealing with you. There’s a plethora of other small reasons, but that is probably the only thing that you could influence directly.”
“Wait... don’t tell me that you’re jealous?”
“That would be petty. I know I haven’t been completely straightforward with you since we’ve met, but do you take me for that kind of person?”
“The reality is that it could be true, you lunarians seems to be good at keeping people at arm’s length. It’s not probable though.” You think. Even so, there might be something to it, “Every living thing gets lonely. I’m pretty sure of that.”

“All living things likely feel loneliness,” She concedes. “I’m no different, eons have passed and I can assure you that I take pleasure in being with others. But this is different than wishing that I had you as my lover. Have I thought about it? Everyone has moments of idle and pointless thought. In any case, whatever desire I may or may not have is not the core issue here. I am perfectly content with our kind of interaction.” She chuckles, obviously amused at where her thoughts have lead her, “If you wish me to pine after you like some lovesick girl you’ll better hope that there’s another reality where that’s the case. Things are different here.”

You wonder about that reality. It does seem like an impossibility, something only possibly in another time line. It’s not something you’d be too eager for; You see her as a different kind of person and nothing could change that. It’s difficult to imagine circumstances beyond the present reality.

“If something were to happen here, it would be something like an adult relationship.” You muse. Something discrete, passionate in its own way but never approaching the likes of an amour fou. “Meetings, talk, instants of revelry. No doubt your offers have all been something like that.”

“I think you misunderstand.” Eirin corrects you, her posture relaxed and eyes calm, “What you are describing there is not an adult relationship. It is anything but that. I’ll say it plainly - it’s a misconstrued archetype which is, frankly, childish.” There’s a glint from buttons on the front of her blouse as she shifts around in her chair, sitting with her back straight. She calmly continues, “I imagine that whatever it is that you imagine might have happened, had you opted for myself or Udongein to satisfy your urges or if you had agreed to my guidance, is not what a real relationship would be like. You’d do well not to confuse discretion with substance nor satisfaction with connection. “

“Very well, I was mistaken in assuming that. Then just what would the adult relationship look like?” You take the chance to ask, feeling that she’s genuinely not patronizing you.

“That’s a label you’ve adhered to it. It’s an unnecessary label, and anything in which equals knowingly and willingly participate has the same foundation.” Her definition is pithy, “Mutual respect and a clear understanding of what you want is only what you need.”

“Isn’t that overly simplistic?” You don’t say all that you’re thinking. No matter how naive it may seem to you, pointing that out wouldn’t help things.

“Perhaps. But if you have those two things in a relationship’s foundation, I would wager it’s going to be solid. I suppose it’s also true of friendships and not just amorous liaisons.”

“So, humor me. If we had a thing, what would it look like?”

She smiles, having probably already thought of her answer long ago. This is Eirin at her peak confidence and natural assertiveness.

“I would expect something resembling a mixture of companionship and a practical assistant for some of my more personal endeavors. I suppose I would provide emotional and intellectual gratification over time. The physical aspect would certainly be generous and reciprocal. Getting into anything more specific is pointless and best left for to ponder about as you lie in bed tonight.”

“How both specific and all the same very vague.” It’s about what you expected from her. Without getting into the muddy field of psychology, you’d bet that her role in a relationship would be nurturing and guiding while yours would be complimentary to her limitations.

“I can’t say for certain how things would be. No one can. It’s the best answer you’ll get.” She uncrosses her arms and, with her left hand, grabs her long braided hair and places the end on her lap. She fidgets with the ends of her hair, stroking it in a reassuring manner. It‘s a gesture that‘s both disarming and alluring, “There is of course the possibility of engaging in the physical but however pleasurable such a tryst might be, I don’t think either one of us really wishes to deal with the aftermath just for the sake of frivolity.”

“I think we should get back on topic.”
“Really? I was having fun.”

Of that you have no doubt. And you’re somewhat inclined to continue the conversation. You’d be lying if it wasn’t interesting to hear her talk about this sort of thing. You came here for a reason.

“What do I have to do with you getting along well with Kaguya? Besides the jealousy angle I don’t really see anything else I could be causing. You are the one that’s been acting strange towards me, no, us.”

“Yet I’m still having a pleasant conversation with you now. I wouldn’t call my behavior strange. Everything is a means to an end and this conversation is no exception.” She brings the end of her hair to her lip, “I’m not the one with a problem. I’m just doing what I always do.”

“Your methods are questionable. I’ve never been able to tell just exactly what you hope to accomplish by anything. Yet you seem to get whatever it is you want just fine.”

“That’s a virtue of taking time to think things through.” She drops her tail of hair back onto her lap, there’s a soft thud. The silver against the red-blue backdrop resembles an emblem or flag of sorts. “If things work out, there’s no need for me to explain myself.”

“That could be seen as arrogant, and be causing this whole mess.”

“No.” She stands up suddenly, causing you to involuntarily recoil. There’s a look on her face that confounds you. It could be as easily a look of grim determination as it could be one of an enlightened being at peace. She begins to pace around the room; Her slow footsteps echo on the hard wooden floor. With arms united behind her back she continues to speak, “I haven’t changed, my behavior hasn’t changed either. Nor has anyone else’s for that matter. You may be more confident and direct, but at heart you are just being who you always were. It stands to reason that the issue is not with anyone but Kaguya.”

“So all of this is her fault? Her ill-disposition and sometime outright hostility towards her has nothing to do with how you’re behaving.” You find it hard to believe. Things can’t be as one-sided as that. “I can’t buy into that easily.”

“Of course my behavior has to do with it. I didn’t say that my behavior wasn’t affecting her.” She turns sharply as she reaches the opposite end of the room, swiveling in place. “If something that didn’t bother her before does so now, it means that she’s changed her outlook.”

“Alright.” You have your reservations but hear her out, “Let’s say that’s true, how has she changed and why?”

“I’m not the best reader of hearts. If you tell me to figure out a problem with known elements I will likely be able to do it. It is my belief that most of this is due to your relationship with her and how she views things.” She stops pacing, looking at you in the eye, “I have a personal theory, nothing more than a feeling from having spent so much time with her.”

“Which would be?” You see something that you haven’t really seen in Eirin before - hesitation. It makes you feel anxious. Her grey eyes - so often cool and focused - are full of doubt.

“It’s not my place to say. If I’m right, it’s something that you need to bring out and deal with by yourselves. Hence my earlier comments that the only thing you can mend is your own relationship.”

You stand up. “That’s it? Not going to help me help you? What the hell!? This is important and you’re deciding to be as cryptic and uninvolved as ever.”

She does the unexpected. Her lips curl up and tremble and then she begins to laugh.

“What’s funny about that?” You demand to know.

“It’s just that... ah...” She’s nearly to the point of tears, and she’s struggling to breathe. She takes a deep breath and tries to stop before cracking up again. It takes two more tries before she’s able to speak again, “I’m actually putting your interests ahead of everybody else’s! I don’t... I don’t know what’s gotten into me but I swear that I’m not even thinking of the most efficient way to solve things here anymore.” She chortles, a brief relapse, “It would be much easier to let things go on and get rid of you, and thus most of the headache. Yet here I am, acting in your best interest. I seem to be what you’d call a sucker.”

“I don’t know whether to thank you for your kindness or ignore everything you say. It’s gotten that bad.”

“Getting cross with me won’t solve anything. Think about it,” She poses a hypothetical, “if say you were with Udongein or that troublemaker, is this how you’d expect things to be? Activities and sharing limited by a barrier you can’t get by? Where’s the promise of a happy future in there? This is neither rejection nor complete acceptance - it’s limbo. Perhaps it’s a cruelly long rejection in fact.”

“We’ve had our moments, shared a lot. During our little escape and before that we enjoyed ourselves. And since then we’ve laughed and grown together.”
“Can you honestly say that it would be the same were it anyone else?”
“I wouldn’t want it to be anyone else. It’s pointless to speculate.”
“What I’m trying to get at is the rate at which things would have progressed if it weren’t such an avoidable uphill struggle.”
“I can’t expect everything to be perfect from the beginning, can I? I may be a romantic at heart,” If anyone could be a romantic from indulging in the media you’ve indulged it, you’d certainly qualify, “but I can be realistic and patient. If there is something that she’s holding back it’s for a reason and I should give her time. Again, this is why I came here, to fix things between you and her. We’re fine.”

Eirin sits back down, slumping in her chair. Her long braided hair flopping to the side, over her shoulder. There’s quiet in the clinic and you can hear your own heartbeat. Eirin eventually sits up straight. She crosses her legs and looks at you calmly.

“I told you I’m not proficient at reading hearts. But isn’t it possible that you’re just giving her time to be indecisive and escape commitment?” It dawns upon you that Eirin is giving you relationship advice. It’s eerily surreal and the more you think about it the more you expect the walls to melt away and a vast dreamscape to be exposed.

“What would you have me do? Force her to do something she doesn’t want?”

“In a sense, yes. There may be something she wants but doesn’t know how to obtain or is unsure of the method. Mind you I’m not telling you to do anything stupid, or physical for that matter, though that may well be part of the process. What has to happen, has to happen.”

You half-expect her to reach into her drawer and give you something for the occasion. She does no such thing, keeping her stare squarely on you, “Do you understand what I’m saying? You need to face things instead of delaying. The rest will work itself out.”

She smiles confidently, probably hoping to bestow some of the same confidence on you. For the rest of the conversation, no matter how else you try to bring the focus back to what you can do about her, Eirin simply refuses to engage. She tells you all about the human circulatory system with the enthusiasm of a child. You learn a lot. Unfortunately it’s not exactly what you wanted to learn about. There’s simply no way to get her to share anything more, in particular her theory for Kaguya’s behavior.

The message is clear, you are to push things and that’ll make everything magically perfect. It’s ridiculous. As you lay in bed that night, you think that maybe Eirin is making fun of you. The fumes from the now-running distillery add to the suspicion and you feel that you are getting nowhere fast. The dreams you have for the next several nights get ever stranger and during the day you try to deal with Eirin however you can. There’s no budging her from her position and you’re honestly sick of learning so much about anatomy and biology. You can’t even get her to change the subject matter to chemistry, much less back to Kaguya.

It’s a cycle that lasts a week. You see less of Kaguya than you wish and during your time together you’re preoccupied with thinking of ways to bait Eirin. You think that Kaguya knows what you’re trying to do and is willfully ignoring it. The lesson that’s force-fed to you that week is that lunarians are possibly the most stubborn individuals you have ever dealt with. They’re somehow more stubborn than your usual ceaseless and single track drive. You have to concede defeat when your dreams start to be about the human body - as seen from the cellular level.

“Tewi!” You’ve had it with this thing. “I don’t care how much you’re making off this little operation, I want it out of my room!” You storm out in the morning, resolved to get things done. It’s hopefully the last trip you’ll have to make to the clinic for the day and week.

“Oh good, you’re just in time. I was thinking about the spleen and its-”

“No, it’s not time to talk about the spleen. Nor anything but what I want to talk about.” You cut Eirin short. “We need to fix things. Even if you believe all that stuff you say you believe. You need to go see Kaguya, make amends and shake hands. It doesn’t matter if you don’t really mean it. Stability will return and everyone will eventually be happy.”

“And why would I do that? I don’t have anything to gain from it. Our friend the spleen on the other hand...”

“Hear me out, will you?”

Double-damn the spleen

“No, I’m afraid I won’t. I already have and I stand by my reasoning. I’d rather spend a pleasant time with you than an unpleasant one. If you keep pushing it, it will be rather unpleasant.”

“Then we won’t ever reach an understanding?”

“We already have. I will steer clear, do nothing, while you ensure your future and everyone’s tranquility. It’s simple and I don’t have to do anything but sit here and think about how I enjoy quiet walks on the beach.”

“You leave me with no choice. I made up my mind that I’d get you two to fix things and there’s no way I’m backing down. There may be truth to your suggestion but I’ll deal with that separately. It’s one issue at a time here. And yes, I am acutely aware that you see everything as a single issue. No need to remind me.”

“Well then, good for you. If you want to talk about the spleen I’ll be here, doing little more than twiddling my thumbs. Maybe I’ll write in my diary or, I know, spin some yarn, wouldn’t that be a hoot?”

You retreat in order to regroup. You know that you’ll be back soon.

[] Get Tewi to help
[] Get Reisen to help
[] Shadow Eirin until she relents
>>No. 21423
>You need to face things instead of delaying.
Take that to heart guys.
[x] Shadow Eirin until she relents
>>No. 21424
>You need to face things instead of delaying

Except for this part, everything else went over my head. Like a paper airplane.

[x] Shadow Eirin until she relents
>>No. 21427
[] Shadow Eirin until she relents

I don't see this working. Shirou has already commented on how stubborn Eirin has been while he uses this strategy.

[] Get Reisen to help

Get the moonbunny that will do anything her master says to help. That will work.


[x] Get Tewi to help

Tewi isn't an asshole in this story. She'll actually help. I don't know how it will happen, but we can trust her at least.
>>No. 21428
GLORIOUS UPDATES
>>No. 21429
>>21428
Glorious indeed.

[x] Get Tewi to help
>>No. 21430
[X] Get Reisen to help

I'm not sure simply shadowing Eirin would accomplish anything, if Shirou's been doing this for a whole week to no avail.

She's actually been very clear about this matter, and when you get right down to it she's probably right. Kaguya and whatever issues she currently has are the center of the the situation, whether it's the glacial pace of her relationship with Shirou, or the way things have been between her and Eirin.
What Shirou is basically focusing on is a single symptom while ignoring the underlying cause of that symptom.

Still, if it's Eirin that he's so insistent on dealing with now, may as well go and seek help from someone who actually works with/for her.
Assuming she's even inclined to help, of course...
>>No. 21432
[x] Get Tewi to help
Maybe the being that's older than Gensokyo itself can help.
>>No. 21433
>>21432

I think everyone at Eientei is older than Gensokyo. Aside from Shirou of course.
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>>21433
Yeah, everyone at Eientei besides him is older than Gensokyo. The exception is Medicine, but no one cares about her and she doesn't feature in this story anyways. Good and likeable characters are always remembered by their fanbases, no matter the context.

PS - not sure if I'll update with a 3 vote choice, mostly because I have the TV film adaptation of The Colour of Magic to watch. But I'm sure you can figure out the rest of the reason.
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>>21434

>But I'm sure you can figure out the rest of the reason.
>>No. 21436
>>21434
>vote faster faggots.
>>No. 21437
[x] Get Tewi to help
>>No. 21438
Oh shi updates!

[x] Get Tewi to help

Can't help but think Reisen's more likely to hinder things than actually hel[; which is strange considering the alternative.
>>No. 21440
[x] Get Tewi to help

The logical choice~
>>No. 21441
[x] Get Reisen to help

hmm...
>>No. 21442
[X] Get Tewi to help
>>No. 21452
Update in a few hours, maybe 5-6 more. I'll try to be more consistent so please do the same.

This may be excessive hand-holding from me, but I worry when I see people claiming that almost everything went over their heads. Sometimes it isn't so important to worry about every nuance in a choice as understanding what has happened/is going is. And I don't even know what comments like 'hmmm' or 'y is x, so it's the best' are supposed to mean or what they add. Mostly for your sake that I worry.
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>>21452
Stalking Eirin would have been fun, could have leveled up those stealth skills.
But scheming with Tewi has it's own charm too.

>Update in a few hours, maybe 5-6 more.
>>No. 21457
>>21452

Hooray!
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“Wow, I can’t believe you cleared out so quickly - I’m impressed.” Your room is cleaner than ever, as well as completely free of industrial distilling equipment. You see that your futon has been rolled up and there’s a complimentary mint nearby. ‘

“All you had to do was ask. Had plans to move things alone anyways, this was more of a temporary fix until things freed up. Left the place as before.” Tewi looks around, as if checking for anything she might have overlooked. She lets out a small satisfied ‘hmph’ and smiles, “I don’t know if the other thing will be as easy as that.”

“But you can help, right? You’re the first person I think of when I think someone who gets what she wants.”

“Sucking up to me won’t help much. Though it is true.” She scratches her head and her floppy ears sway, “Tell ya what. I’m touched that you’d come to me in your time of need. This is a tall order so I have to think about it for a while. You can wait right? I’ll just sit here and think... I sure am getting thirsty.”

You raise your eyebrows, wise to what’s going on, “I’ll get you something to drink. All you have to do is ask.”
“Nice of you to offer. I’ll have some carrot juice, freshly made of course.”
“Of course. Anything else while I’m at it?”
“Nah, don’t sweat it.”

It wasn’t unimaginable for you to have to put up with a couple of demands in exchange for your request. You expected it and you don’t grumble as you scamper off to the kitchen to procure only the finest and most supple carrots for Tewi’s juice. Helping yourself, you grab the first carrots you find and get on with it. Like sharks on the scent of appetizing blood, rabbits begin to show up and circle around you. A simple mention that the juice is ‘for the boss’ keeps the detente going and the hungry eyes well away. Feeling sorry, you toss over a carrot’s tip and watch the feeding frenzy - it reminds you of a nature documentary you watched once and is as messy.

“Here you are, one tall glass of carrot juice. Complete with ice o make it extra refreshing.” You leave the tray with the glass next to Tewi. The petite girl is siting cross-legged with her eyes closed, looking to be deep in thought. Her brow wrinkles and her nose twitches slowly... once... twice and she opens her eyes.

“That was quick.” She sees the cup and grins. You watch as she drinks slowly, downing it in a unreasonably long single gulp. “Ahn~” There’s a soft moan and a look of bliss seats itself firmly on her face. She basks in the afterglow, “Good, good. That was mighty good. Now I can really get to thinking.”

You sit by your rolled up futon. You tear open the package and pop the mint into your mouth. Wintery fresh. You’ve no choice but to wait until inspiration hits the troublesome rabbit. Fortunately, it’s not long until Tewi has the flash of divine insight that you’re waiting for. She hops up, pink dress flopping with the sudden movement of air. She skips to you, remarking simply, “I’ve got it.”

The plan isn’t very complex. In fact, it is downright simplistic when analyzed. But you trust Tewi and where you’ve failed you hope she might succeed. The nucleus of the plan is to force Eirin to talk to Kaguya and, hopefully, that’ll lead to things getting better. People can reach understandings if they talk to one another. The underlying philosophy may be naive, but there’s no hope of any other kind of settlement. As Tewi is quick to remind, the devil is in the details, and she assures you that her particular execution will be flawless.

“I can’t guarantee that everything will be fixed, but it sounds like it’d be more than you’ve accomplished. You’ll have to get Kaguya once everything is ready. so I’ll be counting on you for that.”

It takes Tewi a day to get everything ready. And it takes a further two days until you’re given the clear for ‘the right time’. With the details of the rundown of the playbook in mind, you go fetch Kaguya from her room. You tell her a little white lie and get her to follow you to the specially prepared room. Excusing yourself, claiming that you dropped something in the hallway, you leave and the door locks itself.

“Sorry Kaguya, it’s for your own good.” It hurts you to betray Kaguya’s trust - she didn’t even really ask you why you were taking her there, likely assuming that you had something special to show her. It’ll be a while before she notices that you’ve taking too long and realizes that she’s locked in. Unlike the regular rooms at Eientei, this one has a swinging door with a lock and no other way out. It’s near the clinic, and you suspect it’s an annex to it of sorts. Tewi fitted the door with a mechanism that allows it to be only opened from the outside and besides a small and high window there’s no other opening in the room.

You hide away, hearing footsteps coming down the hallway. Brisk hurried steps that lead straight to the door. Eirin is obviously preoccupied with whatever she thinks she’ll find in the room and doesn’t stop to think, turning the knob and letting herself in. She mutters to herself and the door shuts close behind her, effectively locking the two lunarians in together. The knob is tried but the door doesn’t open.

“Let me out, I know you’re out there.” Scant seconds later and Eirin’s imperative comes from the other side of the door. She tries the door again but it still won’t open. “This is immature and childish of you. Let me now out and I’ll overlook it. You can go back to playing house as well.”

“No can do.” You reply, “Listen up. The door’s only going to open when you reach a consensus. There’s some snacks and drinks already in there so just talk it out and this will all be over soon. It’s about time you worked things out.”

Ignoring further protests, including some from a very cross-sounding Kaguya, you walk away. The plan is simple, perhaps stupid, but it’s all you’ve got. If they can’t get along then at the least they might get some of their frustrations out into the open. That would be a partial victory. In face of the uneasy deadlock, anything would be an improvement.

“Yo.” Tewi appears on cue. She is grinning and is holding a sheet of paper up.
“Yo, they’re in there together now.
“Good, plan worked then. It’s the best shot I could give it. I almost didn’t think I was going to be able to fool Eirin - she usually has a nose for these things.”
“How’d you get her to come out? She looked like she was real worried.”
“The clever use of well-placed evidence. Everyone has something secret they don’t want to discuss.”
“Remind me never to piss you off.” The girl before you is a frightful demon in a small soft pink package.
“Oh you could never do that. You’re way too fun, no matter what you do it’s just more fun. Besides, I wouldn’t jeopardize our pool thoughtlessly.”

Her eyes tell you of a dark underbelly to the quiet and noble Eientei that you’d sooner not find out about. It’s a world of high stakes, questionable activities and bunny-eat-bunny attitudes.

“So, now it’s time you do a little favor for me.” She hands over the piece of paper.
“Fair’s fair.” You look at the list on the paper and find that she’s kindly offered you alternatives.
“Pick one, I don’t care which one, they all will help me out one way or another.”
“How does capturing a ghost help you?”
“It just does - okay? I didn’t ask you a bunch of awkward questions when I helped you out, did I?”
“No ma’am.” You roll your eyes.
“Good Shirou.” The tone is as patronizing as one could get. All that’s missing is a pat on the head and a little treat for being a good boy.

Amongst the least life-threatening, time consuming and otherwise relatively easy activities you narrow down three. Three ‘favors’ that have acceptable risk but that all go into questionable ethics territory.

[] Nick Reisen’s recently-worn knickers
[] Liberate a few experimental drugs from the back of the clinic
[] Swipe Kaguya’s fancy scented bath soaps

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>>21456
Got caught up with other stuff, hence the delay.

Oh and I meant just the opposite. Not focusing on options etc
>>No. 21460
[x] Nick Reisen’s recently-worn knickers

I believe consequences associated with this choice have the greatest comedic potential.
>>No. 21461
[x] Liberate a few experimental drugs from the back of the clinic
Penis growing drugs anyone?
>>No. 21462
[x] Liberate a few experimental drugs from the back of the clinic

The bath soap choice is the most boring one. Time to do something interesting.

Hopefully whatever Tewi plans to do with these drugs doesn't involve Shirou...
>>No. 21463
[X] Swipe Kaguya’s fancy scented bath soaps

Compared to Reisen's still-warm used underwear, and Eirin's drugs, stealing some soap seems relatively innocuous.

Almost suspiciously so.

It almost makes me wonder if, perhaps, Shirou might not discover something else while he's looking through Kaguya's things for them...


>>The door’s only going to open when you reach a consensus.

Let's just hope this consensus they reach isn't along the lines of "kick Shirou's ass when we get out of here".
>>No. 21464
[X] Nick Reisen’s recently-worn knickers

Eirin and Kaguya are locked up, why not go for the only one free to react? Being "safe" isn't always the best option. Let's get some backbone and go for the daring choice. If all else fails, we get mind raped and Reisen tells Eirin if Kaguya and Eirin get over their problems, but she wouldn't do that~, would she?
>>No. 21465
[x] Liberate a few experimental drugs from the back of the clinic

Works for me~!
>>No. 21466
[X] Nick Reisen’s recently-worn knickers

not completely sure why, but the drug option seems plain wrong, and the third one sounds like a trap.
>>No. 21467
>>21466

also, now that ive thought it over, i can't see at all how any single one of these might affect us in a positive, or less negative way than the others.
>>No. 21468
>>21467

Stealing Kaguya's soap won't result in anything even if Shirou is caught. The other two will.
>>No. 21469
[X] Swipe Kaguya’s fancy scented bath soaps

Brings me back to FFVII memories and searching Tifas house. As much as I would want to raid Reisens stuff, the soaps seem more interesting and less life-threatening.
>>No. 21471
>>21469

Well, I don't know about that. Kaguya might really love her soaps.

[x] Swipe Kaguya’s fancy scented bath soaps
>>No. 21477
[X] Nick Reisen’s recently-worn knickers
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A little planning and a little liquid courage later you’re sure you can do what Tewi asked of you. Perhaps a little bit too much liquid courage, your senses feel distant and the darkness doesn’t feel at all bad. It makes the cramp in your legs feel almost non-existent too, the numbness stemming from lack of blood doesn’t concern you at all. You think you have your timing right, it’s evening and there’s nothing to do at Eientei - this means that it’s time for everyone to relax and try to forget about the burden of the daytime.

The sound of the door opening increases hopes that you were right after all. There would otherwise be no other reason you’d be hiding in the small storage closet in the bath entrance. It reeks of cleaning agents and there’s a mop that’s getting dangerously cozy with your rear end. There is another reason, you muse with a stupid smile, and it’s not playing hide and seek - it’s if you were even more drunk and were thinking of peeping. It’s a strange thought to have. There’s nothing stopping you from taking a peek now you realize.

A splinter of wood lodges itself in your finger. It hurts but not enough to make you stumble out like a cliched scene in a cartoon and expose yourself to Reisen. You pick at it against the closet door and prick your ears up to listen in on what’s happening on the other side.

“Hmm...mmm... hummm mmm hmmm~”

Soft and gentle timbre. A little off on the low notes, but enjoyable all the same. You conclude that it is indeed Reisen humming along a tune on the other side.

You wait, feeling a bit sleepy. It’s the booze you realize, but you try to keep alert. The door to the bath slides open, and she stops humming for a moment to run the water. More than one of your inhibitions is missing in action and you try to picture the scene just beyond the closet and bath door. By now you imagine the her washing up before she gets into the bath. She’d be sitting, pouring water over her skin and stubborn drops would cling to her generous thighs. Gravity would be unable to dislodge then and she’d work slowly and meticulously while humming a pleasant little diddy to get herself ready. Probably wouldn’t be a spot she’d miss.

Of course that wouldn’t be the end of it, there might be a forlorn glance at her own body. An evaluatory gaze, one of some dissatisfaction. You picture her looking at herself completely in the buff, in front of the now-full bath examining where she feels she’s put on a little weight, jiggling in all of the right spots. It’s terrible to think that she thinks it’s a bad thing she’s gotten plumper here and there... but not so terrible when you picture her in spandex trying to work the weight off.

The images are a little too vivid for you to handle. It’s all of a sudden more cramped in there than you care for. So it’s time to come out.

Slowly opening the door, you try to see if the bath door is open. As you thought, it’s closed and steam makes the door foggy. You can hear some humming and splashing, confirming your guess that she’s happily bathing by now. You finally remove the splinter and suck on your finger and look around for your quarry. Your body is cramped and your movements sluggish.

In the corner near the bath door, a small pile of clothes rests inconspicuously. You sneak over and begin to rummage through. Blouse, skirt... very supportive and unassuming... support. The little fantasy from earlier becomes much more vivid now that you can picture the exact proportions. You find what you’re looking for stuck in the doorway. White and pink, striped and alluring. Gently slide the door slightly, intent of getting what you came for. You liberate the coquettish undergarment and close slide the door close.

Even though you know that you could probably catch a glimpse of Reisen in the bath, you choose to not be a voyeur. You have Kaguya and imagination is the limit of your perversions of other women. You stuff the panties into a pocket, trying your best not to think about it. You leave, resisting all temptation to do anything else. Under normal circumstance it wouldn’t be that hard to resist, but you have a lot of pent up energy from too much stimulation and not enough realization. The last few weeks have been especially bad and you congratulate yourself afterwards for being as cool about it as you were.

“They seem to be the real deal.” Tewi appraises the pair of panties. She looks at them closely, “You did well. Glad we made this little deal.”

“What are you going to use them for?”

“Too much information there. You only need to know that I needed them, the rest is between me and my slush fund.”

“Right, right. I forget that you like to compartmentalize.” You change gears, “So have they said anything?”

“Just that they’d like a bathroom. Told them tough break, they either settle their differences or they’re not getting out.”

You nod, sending her off with a thanks. It’s harsh, but it needs to be done.

You knock on the door, “There’s a bedpan in there if you really need it.”

“You can’t be serious!” Kaguya is the enraged party.”Shirou! Get me out of here or I swear I’ll get back at you. Just you wait!”

“Give it a rest princess, you know the drill. No resolution, no opening.” Ignoring the second round of bitching you sit back and pick up a nearby magazine. You look at the title - Business Youkai Quarterly - must be Tewi’s you figure. It’s got everything that a modern entrepreneur needs around these parts. There’s an in-depth profile about a local bird youkai and her growing fast food franchise. There’s a horrible pun about giving dreams wings but you’re too bored to stop reading. You’re amused by the advertisement. You would have never figured that there was a bordello there. The neighbors must be outraged.

You go through the magazine twice before you feel that you’re as bored as can be. You sneak up to the door and try to listen in to the activity within. Still nothing.

“This will all be over if you stop being so pigheaded.” You knock.

“Or if you stop being stubborn.” Eirin’s cool and controlled voice replies. “This isn’t dignified, even for you.” You can picture her glancing at the door from the other side, a disdainful look of contempt on her face.

“I’m a stubborn bastard. Tough.”

“Bah. If I had claimed you as my own none of this would have happened. You would have been too busy catering to my every need to be contemplating such idiocies.”

You know she’s just saying it to taunt you but it gets Kaguya going, “I bet that that would make you feel so much better about yourself wouldn’t it? Being in control all the time must be nice.”

“If you’re going to apologize for your behavior then go ahead, I’m not going to dignify that with a response.”

Things feel like they’re getting heated. But there’s no combustion and the conversation dies down. The way you picture it, they’re sitting in opposite ends of the room, not even so much as looking at one another. It feels like you’ll die of boredom long before they do. It’s morning now and you haven’t gotten a wink of sleep.

[] Give it up and open the door
[] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time
[] Seek advice from some outside of Eientei
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Why is it the only time you guys pick anything related to Reisen, it's always not nice?
>>No. 21481
Okay, so we're walkin the walk, lets do it properly.
[X] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time.

i fear that, if we leave, we might find it tougher when we come back.
Also
>> Why is it the only time you guys pick anything related to Reisen, it's always not nice?

OH GOD I DONT KNOW! I KNOW SHE DESERVES BETTER, JUST LEAVE ME ALONE OK!?
>>No. 21482
>Business Youkai Quarterly
haha, brilliant. Haven't read such a good update from you for a while now.

[x] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time

Dolf needs to stop being serious business. Too much playing games with Eirin and trying to figure out Kaguya while a crazy Reisen is stalking Shirou.
>>No. 21484
[x] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time

>Why is it the only time you guys pick anything related to Reisen, it's always not nice?

Negative attention is better than no attention at all. ;_;
>>No. 21485
[X] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time
>>No. 21486
[x] Seek advice from some outside of Eientei

I wonder if the adviser would make their way on location and serve as a catalyst.
>>No. 21491
[X] Stay the course, it’s a matter of time.
lol'd at the magazine and capomafia Tewi.
>>No. 21494
[x] Stay the course, it's only a matter of time.

Excellent update, you're in the zone.

Maybe you could work in a way to make it up to Reisen? Or would we have to do it over time?
>>No. 21496
>>21494
I can already see this conversation happening:

"Oh hey, Reisen? Like you know how you're missing a most delicious pair of red and white striped panties. You went in for a bath... and next thing you know someone nicked your nickers..."

Reisen obviously would scowl and ask "Yes? What about them?"

"Well, I took 'em!" /shirougrin

"You goddamn pencil-dicked son of a bitch! I'm sick and tired of this bullshit. If it's not you, it's freakin' Tewi and her crap. Grow up you pathetic manchild.Kaguya is probably insane from boredom, it's the only excuse she'd have for giving you the time of day and Eirin must be whacked out on her own crazy drugs because I don't know what in the name of all that's holy they see in you."

"I...umm.. uh... Tewi and..."

"Well fuck this and fuck you. I'm going to go postal on your ass. Ruin your shit so you learn some goddamn human decency you autistic loser. I'm going to give you three seconds head start before I unleash the tiger on your ass! Get going."

Of course she'd point her fingers menacingly, mimicking a gun and be ready to blast Shirou to kingdom come.

"I-I'm sure we can work this out... mistakes..."
"ONE."
"I'm only human and I didn't even want to-"
"TWO."
"It wasn't my- aw crap!"
"THREE! Buh-bye sucka."

...

Yeah, that's totally how it'd go.

So in other news I guess I'll try to write something out now. Remember those days when I used to update 2+ times a day? Make it easier for me and check often.
>>No. 21497
>>21496

Hooray!
>>No. 21498
>Remember those days when I used to update 2+ times a day?
those were the days
>>No. 21499
The tedium continues well into the day. You nap intermittently, waking up every twenty minutes or so. There’s no noise coming from the room and Eientei seems to be deathly still. When you can’t nap anymore you take to counting the floorboards, Somewhere in the mid hundreds you remember that you have a somewhat-functional PDA. The forgotten and mostly useless gizmo is good for passing the time. Checking it yields no new mails, except for spam about ‘Extreme male enhancement’ and ‘24 hours escort service”. There’s nothing worth checking in the encyclopedia nor do you even feel like playing the built-in games.

It’s a fine piece of rubbish you rightly conclude. It hasn’t done anything for you besides confuse you. Not the best freebie you’ve acquired.

Around two, the door opens. You rub your eyes looking surprised as Eirin strolls out casually. She looks around and stares right into your eyes with a hard gaze, “I need to do work. I have no more time for this.”

“Did you reach an understanding at least?”

“Don’t try it again, I indulged you as long as I could.” There’s nothing you can do to stop her. She walks with a resolute spring to her step, something which warns you not to even try to mess with her. It dawns upon you that she could have gotten out any time she wanted. Heaven knows why she decided to spend a whole day locked in with Kaguya. She’s the type of genius who could make a light aeroplane out of bamboo and a lawnmower engine, picking a lock with whatever was in the room must have been child’s play for her.

Her departure exposes you to the wrath of the other lunarian. With a look that could skin a bear, Kaguya berates your idiocy, “I hope you’re proud. Not only did you waste my time, your time, but you also managed to make me angry. It’s not easy to do that, I don’t have much to get angry about being immortal and a generally easygoing person. Your stupid face better not expect to be spending any more quality time with me anytime soon.”

Physical violence is something someone like Kaguya would never stoop to, not in a fit of anger anyways. Emotional violence is a whole other set of rules. She does a good job at making you feel guilty, emphasizing that you’ve betrayed her trust. Anything you can get in edgewise sounds hollow by comparison, good intentions paving the path to hell and all. You don’t get chewed out for nearly as long as you had expected with Kaguya retiring with a mumble of ‘whatever’ and asking you to keep away.

“You look down in the dumps, you’d think you were terminally ill or something.”
“Hey Tewi, come to install a drug lab in my room now?”
“Nah. I’m not that kind of gal.” The diminutive girl smiles. “Why don’t you find something to do, some of the guys and I are planning to run around the forest for a bit, you can come if you like.”
“It’s alright. I’ll be okay here.”
“Really? I mean, you’ve been here for like a week now. You got to try to get things back on track.”
“What’s the point? I don’t think neither Eirin nor Kaguya want to speak to me.”
“So? You took a gamble, you knew the risks. Only fools gamble without understanding the odds.”
“Eh, whatever.”
“Who knows, this might be a good thing.”
“How can being separated from the person I care about be good?”
“Time increases fondness you know. Maybe next time you see her she’ll want to move ahead with the relationship, if you know what I mean.”
“That’s just wishful thinking.”

There’s not much that Tewi can say that would cheer you up. You like the fact that she came to see you though, she’s the only one that’s been consistently supportive through all this.

“Hey, if I locked you in a room with someone you didn’t want to talk to, how long would you stay mad at me?” You ask.

“Hm... a few days maybe? I don’t know, that cute face of yours gets me every single time. I couldn’t stay mad at you.”

“Aw, shucks. You’re just saying that. Stop doing such a lousy job of trying to cheer me up.”

“Looks like it’s working to me. See, there’s no need to be so down. Give up the frown. A smile is better, makes you seem like a real go-getter.” She taps her foot twice quickly and smiles, “Well, sure you dont’ want to come? We don’t have to run. I don’t usually. The others do, I just sort of watch, sometimes mess with them a bit.”

“I’m sure, I’ll be fine.”

“Well, whatever. Just give me a holler if you want to hang out.” There’s something more, she takes something out from her dress and throws it at you. Something small and flimsy lands on your lap.

“Eh?” You pick them up. “Don’t tell me that these are yours?” They’re a low cut and plain black with a delicate grey lace all around the seams.

“Nah, not mine. You should already know what I wear, when I bother to wear something. These are someone else’s panties. Someone from here. Won’t tell you to keep the mystery going. Have fun and enjoy!” With a jolly little hop she’s off.

You shake your head. The exact relationship between Tewi and undergarments is uncertain. She might be a perverted old man at heart or, more likely, she’s as carefree about them as any other thing in life.

They could be anyone’s. Something this sexy is likely Eirin’s but it might be a bit too small for her. So it could be Reisen or even Kaguya, as difficult as it might be to imagine her in something like this. It sets your heart racing. It’s made of a stretchy material. so it could be Eirin’s after all.

You put the distraction away in a hidden little corner of your closet. It’s no use throwing it out nor can you flaunt it either. It’ll have to be hidden away like the dirty little secret that it is.

“Silly Tewi.” You chuckle. The damn bunny made you feel good without you realizing what was going on. She’s good. She always knows how to cheer a brother up. You feel your neck, it might be time to shave again. A week without shaving has made your fashionable 5 o’clock shadow turn into something moss-like. A week more and you’d have the beginnings of a grognard’s beard.

[] Parade yourself around Eientei - show Kaguya just what she's missing
[] Time for Shirou’s revenge aka Mr. Stubbornduty or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Lunarians
[] The power of love (and continuous apologizing) can conquer all! Hell, you’ll even do a poor rendition of Layla with the band if you have to
[] Temperance option (aka potentially awesome write in, though the far more boring one almost always wins)
>>No. 21500
[x] The power of love (and continuous apologizing) can conquer all! Hell, you’ll even do a poor rendition of Layla with the band if you have to

Some of us do check fairly often. Might change this vote if I can think of a write-in before you start writing again or if a good write-in shows up.

Time to go reread. Inb4 writer's block and I can't get anything to sound right/can't get ideas, fuck.
>>No. 21501
[x] Time to get wasted. Raid the kitchen for whatever alcohol you can find. Find Reisen so you have someone who is willing to listen to your drunk babbling and self pity.
[x] Afterwards go and find Kaguya. While drinking you suddenly had an enlightment that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Now you just need to convince her of it.

This will work out. Just i doubt that Shirou would come even close to Kaguyas room and probably will get lost while singing some love songs.
>>No. 21503
>>21500

Got it. Swapping to:

[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] "I'm sorry for locking you in that room Kaguya. I really am. I love you Kaguya and I will do anything to make you happy so I had to lock you in there with her. You and Eirin haven't been getting along for a long time now, and I can't just sit back and watch you two be like this! I've been trying to talk with you about this for weeks now and every time you brush me off. By locking you two together in that room I hoped that you would be able to sort things out, but it didn't work out as I planned. This isn't going away. You can't even bear being in the same room with her for meals nowadays. Even if this situation wasn't your fault isn't it worth burying the hatchet to keep an old friend?


Rewrote that last part at least ten times. If anon likes it hopefully this will be enough.
>>No. 21508
So four different write-in votes, one of which is rather similar to a preexisting choice, and nothing besides that. I know you people have lives and may or may not need nutrients, sunlight and sleep to function but it'd be nice if I could keep a routine update schedule. I've been trying, but it hasn't been easy. At this rate I'm going to have to roll a die. I don't know what to say other than I wish that things were less dead. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way.
>>No. 21509
[X] Clean yourself up, shave, and then hit the kitchen for some meditative baking. By the time you're finished, you'll either have a good idea of what you need to do next, or you'll have made some of the best goddamn pastries anyone here has ever tasted.

Do something constructive god damn

Hell I would have gone off with Tewi as a breath of fresh air from the rather stagnant atmosphere emanating within.
>>No. 21510
>>21508
well, making choice like this ain't easy. I, for one, would have already given up on her so I dunno what to do
>>No. 21511
Ignoring this won't make it go away, and with the [x] TASUKETE TERUYO this might as well not be a CYOA. Come up with a write-in to help or choose one of the choices/other write-ins.
>>No. 21512
[x] Temperance option

I suggest Shirou doing his best outlandish meditation/training under a waterfall/atonement ritual in plain sight of the other denizens of Eientei. Maybe wearing a sign that the others can read, because Shirou will be silent for an equal amount of time that the other two may have had.

actually, i would really like to see Shirou pulling this one out.
Takes a lot of guts to not talk to anybody while maintaining an exercise for so long.
>>No. 21513
>>21510
Go vote for the get drunk with Reisen option.
>>No. 21514
[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] "I'm sorry for locking you in that room Kaguya. I really am. I love you Kaguya and I will do anything to make you happy so I had to lock you in there with her. You and Eirin haven't been getting along for a long time now, and I can't just sit back and watch you two be like this! I've been trying to talk with you about this for weeks now and every time you brush me off. By locking you two together in that room I hoped that you would be able to sort things out, but it didn't work out as I planned. This isn't going away. You can't even bear being in the same room with her for meals nowadays. Even if this situation wasn't your fault isn't it worth burying the hatchet to keep an old friend?

Can't lose heart.
I've been rereading the last thread for comprehension. I still can't read Eirin. Not in the slightest.

I gave up crazy write-ins when my (well-thought out) write-in went over like a lead balloon. Haven't really had the inspiration since.
>>No. 21515
So it's a three-way tie now? Better than a four-way tie I suppose.

C'mon people, I know you may feel satisfied writing something in, but it doesn't mean you have to. Much less go in different directions with it. I'll be along in several hours to pick something if nothing is winning but that's not how it's supposed to work at all. Argue about it, refine it - don't be meek when it comes to voting. It just gives me an excuse not to write.
>>No. 21516
>>21502
>>21512

Eirin and Kaguya will more likely than not ignore Shirou for the day he is doing this. Staying silent for a day isn't going to be enough to budge two stubborn Lunarians.

>>21501
>>21507
>>21509

See: >>21511

Those two write-ins don't actually do anything.

Vote >>21503

If you have any problems with it just say so and we can change it.
>>No. 21517
[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] "I'm sorry for locking you in that room Kaguya. I really am. I love you Kaguya and I will do anything to make you happy so I had to lock you in there with her. You and Eirin haven't been getting along for a long time now, and I can't just sit back and watch you two be like this! I've been trying to talk with you about this for weeks now and every time you brush me off. By locking you two together in that room I hoped that you would be able to sort things out, but it didn't work out as I planned. This isn't going away. You can't even bear being in the same room with her for meals nowadays. Even if this situation wasn't your fault isn't it worth burying the hatchet to keep an old friend?

Worth a shot.
>>No. 21518
>>Staying silent for a day isn't going to be enough to budge two stubborn Lunarians.

But that's exactly what the write-in you're endorsing would have us do.
Remain silent for a day, try to talk to Kaguya, remain silent for yet another day if/when that attempt fails, and continue this until you get a result other than refusal.

How is that any less "not doing anything" then spending time in the kitchen baking delicious treats that you might be able to share with others?

And then there's the apology that, aside from perhaps being just a tad too wordy for this situation, is entirely dependent on Kaguya not only allowing him in but remain willing to hear him out to the end. Especially when his apology is really more like an excuse rather than an admission of any wrong-doing.

>>I love you Kaguya and I will do anything to make you happy so I had to lock you in there with her.

"I made you miserable because I want you to be happy."
The only kind of person I can imagine buying into that justification is also the type who tends to say things like "He's only like that when he's drunk."

I've deleted my own vote, but I am not going to vote that just by your say-so.
Not that it matters at this point, anyway.


[X] Parade yourself around Eientei - show Kaguya just what she's missing
>>No. 21519
>>21518

>How is that any less "not doing anything" then spending time in the kitchen baking delicious treats that you might be able to share with others?

The temperance write-in is isolating Shirou and hoping that everyone else takes notice. How could this happen when Kaguya and Eirin are making a point to ignore him? I doubt Shirou has the cooking skills to win over Kaguya and Eirin through their stomaches.

>And then there's the apology that, aside from perhaps being just a tad too wordy for this situation, is entirely dependent on Kaguya not only allowing him in but remain willing to hear him out to the end. Especially when his apology is really more like an excuse rather than an admission of any wrong-doing.

I'll admit that it is rather wordy, but it is not just an apology. As long as Shirou doesn't let Kaguya interrupt him he will be able to get it all out.

It's an excuse, but Shirou didn't lock up Kaguya and Eirin just for the sake of locking them up. He had a purpose behind it and is trying to get Kaguya to see that. If she does see that then it'll work out, but if it doesn't we need to find something else. At least I'm trying to settle this.

>"I made you miserable because I want you to be happy."

Yep.

>The only kind of person I can imagine buying into that justification is also the type who tends to say things like "He's only like that when he's drunk."

Or when talking to children. Instead of talking out their problems Kaguya and Eirin ignore each other for weeks without end even though they live together. That is pretty damn childish. Yeah, Shirou trying to tell Kaguya and Eirin they are childish won't go over well, but he doesn't have to go there if this works out.
>>No. 21520
Somewhere along the line, as I was passing time playing civilization, I remembered that I had made eggnog the day before and it was nice and cool now. 12+ hours of just one more turn + delicious homemade drinks have changed what might have been anxiety and disappointment into mellow apathy. As anyone who has ever played on prince or higher might tell you, one simply does not abandon the game when the monarch-difficulty AI has formed a quadruple alliance against your measly civ + vassal and is throwing everything at you but the kitchen sink. Doubly so when the first counteroffensive is about to begin and is going to threaten their shipping routes.

How does this even matter for this story? Well it's simple: I like to keep promises whenever it's within my power to do so. So I will be keeping the promise I made to myself that I would update at least once a day for a while. This despite the whole not voting and not reaching a consensus thing. There is a catch, a flavorful cinnamon twist: you have brought upon yourselves something which you could not have foreseen - my disdain for the actual choice and adherence to whimsy. There will be something within the hour, for as long as I can keep the urge at bay.
>>No. 21521
eh, good thing this is going on.
Both lunarians are being dicks and i can't see a way around it, so bring it on.
>>No. 21522
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21522
“There’s a high probability that this won’t work.”

“Oh, quiet you. This will so work.”

“No, I’m serious. This won’t work.”

“Hey, listen, you know I respect you and everything but I’ve dealt with enough explosives during my time to know that this will work.”

“Okay, maybe. But you’re adding magic into the mix, who knows what’ll happen.”

“It’ll be fine. I got the formula and spell right here. Even had it double checked by a second magician.”

“You better not be talking about the human girl.”

“What’s wrong with her? She’s human like I am, like you are. Makes her more reliable if you ask me.”

“I don’t know, have you seen the way she does things? It’s always shoot first, ask questions later.”

“This is Gensokyo, they all do that. You should know better.”

“...I still have my doubts.”

“Yesh, give it up already. Ah, there we go! Stand back now, I’m about to light up the first one.”

“What are you trying to accomplish anyways?”

“You’ll see. It’s pretty smart of me.”

“...”

“Ready? Alright let’s go! Watch this!”

“Ahh! That’s REALLY LOUD.”

“OF COURSE IT IS, IT’S A MAGICAL ROCKET. IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE THIS LOUD!”

“WHA-?”

“I SAID- NEVERMIND, JUST LOOK! SEE!?”

“kay- K, a, g, u, y , a OH, IT’S SPELLING OUT HER NAME. THAT IS KIND OF CLEVER.”

“DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? I’M GOING TO LAUNCH THE SECOND ROCKET NOW.”

“AH! IT’S ALSO WRITING SOMETHING IN THE SKY. “IS FU- OH MY GOOD HEAVENS!”

“AHAHA! NOW THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON SHE IS. HERE GOES NUMBER THREE!”

-

“Was it necessary to be that inflammatory?”

“What? SORRY I C-A-N-T HEAR YOU. MY EARS ARE RINGING.”

“I SAID, WAS IT NECESSARY TO BE THAT INFLAMATORY?”

“WHAT ABOUT THE LAVATORY? WE’RE IN THE FOREST, IF YOU WANT TO GO - GO BEHIND THAT PATCH OF BAMBOO THERE.”

“Pay attention!”

“Ow! Why’d you hit me? Oh hey I can hear stuff now.”

“Hasn’t she ignored you for a while now, why are you being so hostile?”

“That’s exactly it. I know she’s up to something. It’s been a long time and she hasn’t tried anything, I know she’s just waiting for me to lower my guard. So I’m preempting.”

“I’m your friend, you know that. I think I’ve gotten to know you well enough to be able to be somewhat honest with you, haven’t I? Well, it’s my opinion that you’re just feeling lonely.”

“What? Don’t be ridiculous. I’m just putting that bitch in her place. If I don’t engage her she’ll do as she pleases. Especially now that she’s got a new ally. I bet that even now they’re discussing how to get at me.”

“Oh dearie. Come here.”

“Hey, what’s with all the touchy-feely stuff?”

“It’s obvious, isn’t it? You’re just feelings neglected and jealous. Those two aren’t planning anything. I’m pretty sure that they’ve got another kind of relationship. The kind that adults have.”

“They... do? I mean, of course they do! They’re going at it like two monkeys in heat and afterwords making fun of me during pillow talk.”

“That’s not it at all. I’m surprised, I didn’t think you’d care that much. Here, we can sit for a while if you want. You can rest your head in my lap if you like.”

“But... I don’t want to. And I don’t care. Like I said, this was so that she knows I not about to let my guard down.”

“Tell me, why is it that you’re so worked up about it? It’s not like it’s the first time that you’ve been left alone.”

“Well, she’s not alone now.”

“You need to use shampoo, I’ll give you some of mine. Your hair is all stiff. This spartan lifestyle of yours is unnecessary.”

“Quit telling me what to do.”

“Don’t get up, stay, relax. That’s better. Anyways, she’s never been alone. She has her allies just like you have me. Unless... you’re upset that she has someone else now, someone special.”

“...”

“Don’t worry, I’m not going to tease you. That’s it though, isn’t it? It bothers you that there’s someone for her but not for you. Wow, you like to act tough but you’re really sensitive aren’t you? I guess that’s why I care so much about you.

“Now you’re making fun of me.”

“It’s true. I look at you and can’t resist being nice.”

“You’re nice to everyone, you’re definitely teasing me.”

“It’s not everyone that gets to rest their heads on my lap like this. It’s not everyone that gets to eat my cooking all the time. I mean, I may dote on some of my students but it’s nothing like with you.”

“Heh, that’s ridiculous.”

“But true.”

“Thanks. I appreciate it, I really do.”

“Well if you feel better now we can go back to my place and I’ll make you your favorite meal.”

“No thanks.”

“Oh, I’m sorry about last time. I overcooked it a bit but I promise it won’t happen again.”

“No, it’s not that. It’s just that - well, you know... I’d like to stay like this for a bit longer if you don’t mind.”

“Ah, I see. That’s not a problem then.”

“I wonder if she saw it... most of the smoke is gone and you can’t tell what it said.”

“I’m sure she did. If she didn’t, someone else will tell her about it.”

“Hopefully she doesn’t do anything right away, I’d hate to miss some of your home cooking.”

----
Why post this here and not in that other thread? Simple explanation: this is far likelier to be canon.

As for the rest, I won't do anything but methinks you should pound it out like good little boys and girls. Discussion is rarely bad and to be honest, trying to be impartial, I find myself agreeing more with a voice of dissent then the present majority. There is room for improvement and while I can do that as I write, it's best that you guys sort it out first so I don't have to. More fulfilling for everyone. Or whatever, don't say anything else and don't vote in the coming hours. It just means that I'll be not as jolly and more reluctant to write, potentially affecting my solemn promise to myself.
>>No. 21523
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>Simple explanation: this is far likelier to be canon.

MokouxKeine canon if Shirou doesn't get involved. Glorious.

>There is room for improvement

Yeah.

Whenever I have time and people should help.
>>No. 21524
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I'm all for discussion, but for some reason my brain isn't cooperating and is only coming up with silly things. That's why I was hoping for Shirou to do something somewhat nutty.

I was going to refrain from further input, but seeing as how this won't get us anywhere, I'm changing my vote to


[x] Parade yourself around Eientei - show Kaguya just what she's missing
>>No. 21525
Need more people like >>21518 to help me fix my write-in. The more I look at it the more I don't want to change it at all. I know it isn't in character for him exactly, but cutting stuff out and trying to make it seem more urgent or whatever doesn't seem to be working for me.

I still like it so I am a massive faggot or whatever. Write your own or go along with Shirou running around Eientei having fun (that's what I assume that vote does, but I am not really sure) if you can't agree with me and don't want to help.
>>No. 21526
So, Mokou thinks Shirou and Kaguya have an awesome relationship, but neither Shirou nor Kaguya does, funny that.

I guess i'm also taken down, probably because the power of LOVE hasn't worked properly.
>>No. 21527
In regards to the write-in, there are a number of problems, I think.

For starters, it's doing that old "specific sequence of actions that assumes and requires a certain, specific result from each action" thing that, typically, does not really work well.

If your intention is to go see Kaguya in her room, don't bother with any of that "If X then Y, else Z until X" stuff. Just go to her damn room with the resolve that you're not leaving until you either get inside, or at least have her hear you out.

By having the rest of the write-in dependent on one certain thing happening, you're not taking into consideration the possibility of it not happening. "Do the same thing and hope for a different result" is not a good Plan B.

Then there's the whole half-assed apology-but-not-really-because-you-had-a-reason-for-doing-what-you-did-why-can't-you-just-see-that-it's-really-your-fault-not-mine bit.

So you think there's problems between Eirin and Kaguya. Fine. So you want to help things get better between then. Dandy.

But you seriously think she's going to care about why you did that thing that has her pissed off at you, when she's still pissed off at you over it?

Maybe it's just me, but as it is, the write-in feels less like an acknowledgment of any wrongdoing on Shirou's part, and more along the lines of the same avoidance and shifting of blame he had been called out on before.

The if you hurt someone and are trying to apologize for it, the appropriate thing is not to say "I hurt you, and I'm sorry, but I had a good reason for doing it."

You're supposed to just say "I hurt you, and I'm sorry."

Fact of the matter is, regardless of what the situation is or what Shirou's reasons for doing what he did were, he did something that Kaguya and Eirin have every right to be pissed at him for. They may have their own parts in it, of course, but to bring that up serves no other purpose than to try to minimize his own role.

If it were Eirin you were trying to apologize to, instead, do you think she would be any more interested in hearing why Shirou did what he did? Of course not.

Hell, if anything, I'm pretty sure she knows exactly why he did what he did.
After all, she made it quite clear she could have opened that door at any time at all.

Yet she didn't.
She sat in that room for an entire day, even though she didn't have to.
Why?

Because, she knew why he was doing it, perhaps?
She might have believed he was wasting time, not only trying to solve the problem in the wrong way, but trying to solve the wrong problem entirely...yet she went along with it.

Point is, Shirou's motives do not figure into why what he did was wrong, nor should it figure into any apology he makes for those actions.

At least, that's how I see it.
>>No. 21528
>>21527

As immature as you could say Shirou was, it'd be nice if Kaguya and Eirin would realize how they're acting, wouldn't it?

Personally, if I were to apologize for something like that, I'd explain my motives anyway, but I suppose this case is a bit different; it's pretty clear, I'd say, for both Eirin and Kaguya, why we did what we did. Sadly, I suppose not everyone can just be all "oh, well, your heart was in the right place, I'll listen to your argument because you tried so hard", eh? I doubt that humans (or Lunarians) will ever become that understanding of one another, though, at least at the rate we're all going.

[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] "Kaguya, I'm sorry for locking the two of you in there, but you know that I was only trying to help. Please, try to understand - the conflict between us isn't what matters here. Think about it - deep down, you know, you definitely know, there's no doubt - that you want to remain friends with Eirin. Don't let this stand in the way of such a strong bond. We don't have to do this right now, but think on it, please - soon, let's go talk to Eirin. The two of us, together; I'll help you work things out. Not for the sake of you and Eirin, not even for the sake of you and I - but for the sake of the whole house. You two, at the moment, are two rotton branches weighing down a tall tree. Something needs to change."

That's probably a bit too formal for Shirou, no? Or at least a bit too dramatic. Hopefully it should at least get the general idea across.
>>No. 21529
>>21527

By adding in the multiple days thing hopefully Shirou will be able to catch Kaguya when she cools down. Barging in and demanding to talk to her probably won't end well if she is still pissed. Just trying to be gentler is all.

I agree with Jumpy that Shirou should explain why he locked them in the room so I put it in. Mentioning Eirin won't go well so I left her out as much as possible even though this conflict obviously involves her too.

It's hard to get in Eirin's head. I'll tell you when I think of something I like, but that probably won't happen. For now let's just focus on Kaguya.

>>21528

The change is a lot of putting words in Kaguya's mouth, but that might be the kick we need at this point. It is a lot more urgent and in character than what I wrote.

[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] "Kaguya, I'm sorry for locking the two of you in there, but I was only trying to help. I love you and would never make you go through something like that if it didn't seem necessary. Please, try to understand - the conflict between us isn't what matters here. Think about it - deep down you know you want to remain friends with Eirin. Don't let this stand in the way of such a strong bond. We don't have to do this right now, but think on it, please - soon, let's go talk to Eirin. The two of us, together; I'll help you work things out. Not for the sake of you and Eirin, not even for the sake of you and I - but for the sake of the whole house. You two, at the moment, are two rotton branches weighing down a tall tree. Something needs to change."

Cut down on some the overstating there and added in love because it is important and sounds nice. Would this be better?

Sorry this is taking so long, Teruyo
>>No. 21533
I won't be keeping my promise to myself today. The day is gone and, with it, my energy.

I'd like to perhaps work with what should be self-evident truths. If there is an option for a write in along with choices, it would be reasonable to conclude that the choices are good guide posts to what would be appropriate. I was in a more easygoing mood when I chose the wording (because the wording is the last thing done in an update) so the choices may sound whimsical. They, however, boil down to either being nonchalant or being rather proactive. Therefore, any input by the readers should fall somewhere in between or around those concepts. And what is here is something like it, except for a few details that aren't present in those choices A) It adds conditionals and assumes reactions from others and leaves no room for a more organic event development and B) It is wordy, like in the bad way. What seems to me to be something akin to melodramatic speech is jarring within the greater context of other updates and the story as a whole.

Apart from those considerations, leaving my concerns and bias as God for a moment, and looking at it like just another reader I find it a bit alarming that stuff like in >>21527 is being outright disregarded. It at least deserves consideration and, in my unattached opinion, a lot of it makes sense. Enough sense to maybe accommodate and alter plans to reflect greater understanding.

You may wonder why I simply don't write something, disregarding whatever I feel doesn't fit in; It's simple: You've chosen to write in an option, even when you didn't have to. This means that it's your responsibility to have full conscience of the implications of your choice. This is not a difficult choice, and most certainly isn't a life or death one either. It is nonetheless vital that you understand what is going on, how characters may reach and why. Otherwise we risk to fall in the realm of convenient puppetry, where characterization is thrown out for the sake of convenience.

tl;dr: sort shit out.
>>No. 21536
>>21533

Alright, well, I've gone back and reread a few things more carefully. I'm going to go with something a bit more generic this time. My write-in from before is out.

[x] Shave.
-[x] Wait a day and then go to Kaguya's room
--[x] Ask to be let in. If she refuses then leave and wait another day to ask again. Repeat until inside.
---[x] Once granted audience with the princess, apologize for locking her and Eirin in and ask to talk about what's been bothering her lately. Make it clear that things aren't going to get better unless an understanding is reached between the two of you; that should be the first step to fixing things at Eientei.

Looking back, the last write-in was focused more on getting Kaguya and Eirin together to talk, I suppose, and that clearly didn't work last time. After rereading a few things, it seems that I had made the mistake of thinking that the tension was only between Kaguya and Eirin; in all reality, it seems that Kaguya's been hiding herself away from everyone to some extent.

You make me think a bit too much, Teruyo. I always think I've got things figured out, and then I see something else. It's a bit unnerving, if you ask me. I suppose this sort of thinking is probably good for a socially awkward guy like me, though.
>>No. 21537
>>21536

This. Seems about right to me.
>>No. 21539
>>21536

That change just seems like more of the same shit that Shirou was trying to do for all those weeks that were skipped. The write-in is going off the hope that Kaguya being locked in with Eirin for a day will make her somehow willing to talk. Just as likely as the next thing I guess even if it skips over explaining why Shirou did it. I can't seem to add that it without changing the write-in a lot.

Willing to see how it works out.

Changing >>21503 to >>21536.

>>21533

>Apart from those considerations, leaving my concerns and bias as God for a moment, and looking at it like just another reader I find it a bit alarming that stuff like in >>21527 is being outright disregarded.

Half of the two posts above were discussing >>21527. Although with the new write-in a lot of stuff is getting left out along the lines of >>21527 which I think is a huge mistake personally, but I don't think I can convince people that it is anymore.
>>No. 21540
Well, i thoroughly agree with >>21518 and >>21527, thats why my vote here >>21512 is what it is.
I'm sticking to this because i honestly believe we should stop appealing to Kaguya's wisdom and good will. As much as it is the focus of our love, this person seems to be unwilling to take action into solving issues, that is why i propose the antagonist choice, make her miss us a bit, shake the table. Besides, if it fails, we can still go on and on devising new solutions to this awkwardness, its not like we're in a hurry or anything, right?
>>No. 21604
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The summer is hot and your numerous fanboys demand updates.
>>No. 21605
>>21604
Ok.
>>No. 21606
>>21605

k
>>No. 21607
>>21604
>>21605
>>21606

The joke here is that you never specified when you wanted your updates to come.
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>>21607
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>>21607
Something close enoough to that, a little less cruel.

So, hey. Even though things are still a rather unresolved clustershag (in my disappointed opinion) I should write soon. Can't help it if stuff I throw out is ignored or all conversation suddenly dies down for no good reason.

This thread is about done and while I'd like to pretend that you lot are industrious above and beyond the call of duty, I'd settle for simple filling with goodies. A morsel of talk wouldn't be bad either, and not mutually exclusive to posting images. Pleasantly surprise my cynic side me and you might get something more,
>>No. 21613
>>21611
>Pleasantly surprise my cynic side me and you might get something more

Civil discussion, on THP? Surely, you jest. Also, I would commence a Reisen dump, but I lost all my images in an HD crash. Few minutes and I'll post what good ones I can find, though.
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>>21613

Well that was more than a few minutes. On the bright side, my Reisen folder is now in existence once more. Commencing dump, 22 images incoming.

...Also, and I realize this may be futile, but if anyone really has anything at all to say about the story, would be nice if you said it here, while he's asking. Instead of voicing it in a completely different thread while lamenting an oncoming 'Snow End' scenario despite not having voiced your concerns in the thread proper. Just saying.

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>>21615

Herp derp, hit reply instead of upload.
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>>21616

Browse, I meant browse. I haven't slept.

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>>No. 21618
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Slow upload speed is slow.
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Aaaand...
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...done.
>>No. 21643
>Civil discussion, on THP? Surely, you jest.
Good sir, as you may know, mine is an insanity born from staring too hard at the moon. Lunacy, if you will. I can't help but gaze up into the heavens and hope for the best.

It would be nice if maybe other people would heed what you've said. Or what I've said. It's not futility if... I don't know how to finish that sentence. At the least, it is some consolation that there's ever-lovely images of moon folk and their exquisite pets.
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>>21643
Here is the solution. Do this 3 time s day and you will be healthy in no time again.
>>No. 21781
I suppose I owe some sort of status update. Sometime soon, within this week. I'd say sooner but I lost something that was half-done and tossed out the other things. Then again I keep telling myself every day that today is the day. I'll try to be good on my word.
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