“Hello,” you call out loud enough for her to hear, but without shouting. The girl glances away from the moon to you before turning her eyes back to the moon. The small doll floating next to her lands on the shoulder of Medicine and appears to be whispering in her ear.” “. . . Oh. It’s you again. . . You’re significantly less. . . Noisy this time.” She doesn’t seem to be paying you much mind. Medicine falls into silence, still staring intently at the moon. The small doll on her shoulder seems to be saying things to her, and occasionally glancing over at you. Wriggle shifts uncomfortably, and Cirno’s just looking around at this point, she seems rather bored by this whole exchange. A few more moments pass in silence and Cirno starts tugging on your shirt. “Come ON. Let’s GO. It’s boring here. She’s not doing anything either.” She stomps her foot while pulling on your shirt.
[ ] Move along. [ ] Wait just a little bit longer. [ ] Try talking to Medicine again.
You stand there quietly, hushing Cirno. “We’ll leave in a little bit, I don’t think it’s really a good idea to go pushing past her right now though.” Cirno stomps her foot again and crosses her arms. She puffs out her cheeks at you and glares. Medicine’s doll starts laughing. It’s a light ethereal thing. Cirno whips her head around to glare at the doll. Cirno looks like she’s about to open her mouth and start shouting at the girl. You almost drop Aya in your frantic rush to slap your hand over her mouth. You just barely make it, but Cirno is now glaring at you instead. Your hand is getting very cold very quickly so you whip your hand away from her mouth. “Why’d you do THAT for?” Cirno looks quite irate. “The last time I ran into her? She almost killed me for shouting in her general area. I don’t feel like getting attacked right now,” You half snap back at her. You’re slightly annoyed, but you don’t want to cause Cirno to start shouting either. Wriggle seems shocked that you’ve met Medicine before, but Cirno seems decidedly unimpressed by your not wanting to be attacked. “You’ve got US here. I’m the strongest! So there’s no way she could. . . UWAAAA!” Cirno stumbles backwards as Medicine is suddenly standing right next to her. “. . . The moon says I should go with you.” The tiny doll on Medicine’s shoulder nods as well. “So, where are we going?” You, Cirno and Wriggle all look shocked. “Uh. . . We’re not sure where we’re going at the moment. . .” You spit out stupidly. This girl, why would she suddenly just come and help you. No matter. You’re not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. . . but you really do need to figure out where you’re going. If Aya were awake, you could ask her where you guys were supposed to meet up with Momiji and Tewi, but it seems like she’s going to be out for quite some time.
[ ] Try to wake Aya. [ ] Find someplace to stay for the night. [ ] Whistle for Tewi.
>>32581 I don't believe canon explicitly states the relation between Medicine (big) and (small). PMiSS speculates that Medicine (big) was the doll that became a youkai. Medicine (small) isn't even mentioned, so who knows what she is.
You look around across the vast expanse of this lily of the valley field. There doesn’t seem to be anything here at all, other than just a seemingly endless expanse of lilies of the valley. Wriggle pipes in at your looking around. “What are you looking for?” “Mmn. . . We need somewhere to stay for the night, given that Aya seems to be in no real condition to continue, and she’s probably the only one who knows where we’re supposed to meet Momiji and Tewi.” “. . . I know of a place. . .” Medicine interjects quietly. “There’s an abandoned house on the edge of the hill here.” “Well then, would you kindly lead us there?” Medicine nods. Cirno, having since gotten up off the ground and brushed the dirt off of her dress, seems unhappy about the decision to follow Medicine. “HEY! Why do we have to go with HER?” Cirno stomps her foot, “Why aren’t we looking for Tewi or the other girl! Or the tall bunny girl! THEY’RE our FRIENDS.” “We’ll go look for them in the morning, right now we have to worry about ourselves.” “YOU may have to, but I’M gonna go look for MY FRIENDS.” with that Cirno streaks off into the sky quickly vanishes from sight. Damn it Cirno! Why now?! ARGH. Wriggle sighs, “She does this from time to time. Don’t worry, she should be fine.” Your little rag tag group heads across Nameless Hill, following Medicine. A short while later, you arrive at the house Medicine was talking about. It’s nothing much but it’ll be a roof over your head. You knock on the door which falls inside. Well, hopefully the place will stay up over night. The five of you head inside the small house and begin setting up for the night. It only takes a little while to get a small fire going in the fire pit in the middle of the room. Aya is lying on the ground near the fire with Wriggle and Rumia curled up next to her. You sit by the fire while Medicine has trotted back outside to stare at the moon again. It’s a little disquieting, but you don’t have to worry about accidentally running into her.
You wake up to what sounds like a fight. Sunlight is streaming in the windows, so it must be morning. You hear shouts, and it sounds like there’s some sort of fight going on. WAIT, FIGHT?! You quickly come fully awake and sneak over to the door. Glancing out you see Tewi and Cirno attacking Medicine. Oh crap, this isn’t good.
[ ] Rush out and stop them. [ ] Yell for them to stop. [ ] Stay quiet.
>“The last time I ran into her? She almost killed me for shouting in her general area. I don’t feel like getting attacked right now,” Oh ho, why not yell and repeat this all over again? [x] Rush out and stop them
>>32612 Except for those times when you're actually required to speak to save someone's life. You won't be killed for speaking then. But that's moot, since you'll be paralyzed and unable to speak anyway.
>>32625 Well, it would have been reasonable to give her a status report: "Hey, Reisen, we stumbled across some freaky-as-hell hut in the mountains, and then got blasted half-way across Gensokyo. How are you doing?"
However, many Anons probably forgot we even had the button. I know I certainly did.
“STOP WHAT YOU DO IS BAD! WHY YOU DO THIS THING!” you shout. Everyone currently engaged in the battle stops dead and stares at you. While they may not understand what you said, it seems to, at least for the moment, have stopped the battle. Despite making you look like an idiot. “Uh. . . Hey. What’s going on?” you scratch the back of your head and smile nervously. Tewi stares at you dumbly, “You mean you haven’t been captured again? The way Cirno described it, this girl here had kidnapped you, Wriggle, Rumia and Aya.” About this time, a bleary eyed Aya wanders out the door. She looks around and sees the three people frozen mid battle. She yawns turns around and walks back into the house. Tewi brings her hand up to her face briefly before whipping around to face Cirno. “You told me that she’d taken them away from you! Ugh. . . Momiji!” Tewi shouts for Momiji now, “It’s safe to come out. Aya’s here too.” Momiji trots out of the underbrush, still carrying Reisen and the other person. A short while later, everyone is gathered around inside the small shack. It’s a tight fit to get everyone in there, but you figure it’s better to have everyone inside and out of plain view than it is to be a little cramped. Reisen’s also finally come around, but the other person Momiji was carrying still hasn’t. They’re wrapped up tightly in a blanket so you really can’t tell who they are. “From what we’ve managed to gather, after escaping from the Mountain, is that the red white is planning something huge. We’re not sure what it is, but she’s apparently been far more active both in clearing the area around the shrine of Youkai, and well, actually leaving the shrine and getting things from both town and Kourindou. We can only assume that this is bad, so we’re left with but one choice. We have to assault the shrine. We probably shouldn’t take too large of a group, but we don’t know what kind of defenses she might have up there. . .” Tewi sighs. Man that was a huge info dump. “We need to decide on a group to go and assault the shrine.” Tewi looks directly at you. “Since this is your fight, and you’re going to be the one leading the charge, I guess we should leave the making of the party to you.”
[ ] Go alone. [ ] You and one other. [ ] You and two others. [ ] You and three others. [ ] You and four others.
Dangerous combination due to poison and wind to spread it around. It's stated in PMiSS that Medicine is technically one of the stronger Youkai, due to there being enough poisons that her power can affect damn near everything. Not to mention that poison crippled Reimu once already. Fastest Youkai can help us get out if anything comes up that we can't handle, not too mention that she's a fairly high-tier character.
If we still have the button, we'll want Reisen in the other group, for comms purposes. The nineball crew... well, they don't seem like the best team for this kind of delicate situation. Tewi stays back to keep their asses out of trouble.
fuck, leading charge ? with wind and a poison cloud we can fuck them from a mile away, paralyze them and then when the poison is gone (again easy due to aya) we could simply kill/take prisoner whomever we want
>>32646 Actually I was thinking the same thing. Aya carries Medicine and fills the base with poison. Hopefully we will have a way for our party to be immune, but if not wait for it to disperse. That will at least weaken them.
Charge in with Tewi (keeps you lucky) and whomever. Wriggle can flood the hallways with bugs, giving you cover. Cirno can Ice 9 anything to slow down or stop assaults. Rumia could also be used as cover if needed. Reisen could also be useful for cover with her illusions.
If Marisa's backing Reimu up, we'll want two versus one to compensate for the fact that they're hax.
[x] You and four others. Aya and Momizi make one team; they can probably harass pretty well with their speed. Tewi and Reisen can make the second team; hopefully they'll be decent at teamwork.
Wriggle seems pretty responsible. She can keep the rest of our group in check. Have Medicine be our ace-in-the-hole. We'll hit our opponents with poison miasma when Aya/Momizi use their speed to drive them into the right region.
[x] You and three others [x] Aya, Momizi, Medicine The bug bombing strategy is a nice idea but if Eirin dies when she is killed then it's going to suck if she's inside the base while it's happening. Momizi should be our spotter.
[X] You and three others. [X] Medicine [X] Aya [X] Momizi
Yeah, this seems like a good team. Momizi cuts down on our chance of being ambushed and gets us good intel because of her sight. Aya is crazy powerful and works well with Momizi as well as Medicine for the poison/wind combo.
Come on people, use your heads. Aya and Medicine don't need to be with you to poison the enemy. They can do that while you run with other other characters covering you. Hell Aya is so fast the y could catch up to you before you reached the second door.
Tewi - AMAZING LUCK! Reisin - Illusions Wriggle - Bug/Zerg Rush Rumia - Darkness (they'd attack it, but they can't see shit capt) Cirno - Ice.
What useful abilities to make your assault and cover easier! Fucking use them.
You, Aya and Medicine prepare to leave. “Don’t worry, I’ll take care of everyone while you’re gone.” Reisen hugs you tightly. “Be careful, please.” You hug her tightly back and begin heading off with Aya and Medicine. Aya carries you while medicine flies along with the two of you, staying close to the ground so as not to draw a lot of attention. You explain to the two of them the basic concept of the plan that you had. “Basically, my idea is this, First we have medicine create a cloud of poison a distance from the shrine, then, Aya, you can blow it into the shrine using your wind powers. After that it’s just a simple matter of going in and picking off anyone who’s left.” Aya nods. “It’s a sound plan, I think. Keeps us at a safe distance from the shrine. Not too bad of a plan there.” Medicine just flies along silently along side you. “But where should we launch the attack from?” Aya asks. “We could probably do it from the woods, but anything there would be dying in it’s path, so that might be noticeable. . . We could always do it from the bottom of the stairs leading up to the shrine. It leaves us a bit more exposed, but we wouldn’t have to worry about being discovered early. Or I could leave you on the ground near the shrine and Medicine and I could spread the poison from the air.”
>>32696 No wait, revise my bet here. 2 cents says it's Mokou, since she's bundled up and silent. Nitori wouldn't be KO'd and quiet for this long. But a half-regenerated Mokou would be silent, and it makes sense to keep her half-regenerated self bundled up.
They'll shoot Aya & Medicine out of the sky before they can get into position. They need the cover of darkness, whether that means regular Rumia at nighttime flying up with them, or EX Rumia anywhere during the day. A sun-blocking EX Rumia would be more useful than having her radiate darkness, because the we could light our way if needed with Wriggle's fireflies. Momizi would useful to get a better view, but that wouldn't increase the range of the Aya/Medicine dual tech.
>>32697 ...all of these options suck, and seem to have an equal chance of being noticed and getting us caught.
It makes sense for them to look into the air, since they're always flying. And Reimu's been clearing the area of youkai recently, so it would make sense if she kept watch over the woods. And we're plain out in the open if we go by the stairs.
if shit hits the fan, I don't want to be seperated from them
also, all you anons are morrons remember that kira said that reimu was active around the base of youkai mountain ?
chances are, she isn't home anyway we might catch suika, but she is strong enough to take a good amount of poison before feeling any effect. Mima is a ghost, so no effect either. Marisa and Alica are probably with reimu or at home.
>>32700 I am. Do you even know why you are attacking? To get back Eirin? You should be ending this once and for all while you have a chance. Kira said that the story will end very soon, so I honestly doubt you will have much of a chance to heal up and earn new allies, much less use the poisoning trick again later. You're out of time, Anon.
>>32709 Lern2read. It said that Reimu was "far more active both in clearing the area around the shrine of Youkai, and well, actually leaving the shrine and getting things from both town and Kourindou." That means she was clearing the area around HER OWN damn shrine.
Getting half the group killed because they have no role other than as cannon fodder wouldn't sit well with me. We have Medicine who can carry Eirin if everything goes smoothly and that's all we need after the attack.
>>32697 >Or I could leave you on the ground near the shrine and Medicine and I could spread the poison from the air. >Or I could leave you on the ground near the shrine >leave you on the ground near the shrine
Right! Deleted my post and changed my vote to '[x] Sky' because of the possibility of fricken warding/alarm seals mentioned by >>32734. Hopefully Reimu will just be asleep if we attack at night, and won't have people staring at the goddamn nightsky waiting for attacks.
I think it's been mentioned already that the Sky option involves them dropping you off in the woods. The woods that are probably filled with alarm seals. And then they leave you there while they execute the plan.
I'm pretty sure that being dropped in the woods, but without a guard of any sort is a bigger type of fucked.
>>32741 Unless the warding seals are geared to detect youkai specifically, and won't notice humans. After all, Reimu doesn't want the flipping thing going off anytime an animal moves. It's not like the wards would be motion sensors.
>>32744 Kira is the Anti-Spiral. It's not about Bad Ending you...it's about letting you live in DESPAIR.
Is a gas cloud really the way to go? Even carrying Medicine, Aya should be nosediving directly downwards at Reimu, using her fan for propulsion instead of for poison, that with her natural speed and the aid of gravity, she's going to be impossibly fast. Drop the poison doll directly on the target; if Medicine uses her far more potent contact poison in a grapple (which by our tackle she is proven to be weak against), the Miko is dead, and we have won.
>>32746 I like the way you think. But it's not like we expect Reimu to be sitting outside in the middle of the night. We're trying to hit her with a gas cloud while she's sleeping. We can divebomb Medicine in for an added assault after Reimu stumbles outside hacking up her lungs.
>>32748 Actually, retcon that. Hit shrine with cloud of poison, then immediately have Aya drop off--while avoiding the poison if possible--Medicine at ground level. When Reimu starts to exit, have Aya keep Reimu pinned at the doorway with a danmaku barrage from the air, while Medicine moves in and increases the poison dose.
Not sure if things will work out this way...but it sure as hell sounds nice.
Guys, it's very important that we only focus on taking out Reimu. Marisa will always abandon a sinking ship, and Alice is only there because of Marisa. Attempting to take on Suika or Mima would be an exercise in futility.
>>32752 >Attempting to take on Suika ...shit. I forgot about the friggin' Mega Oni. ...oh well, if the poison doesn't work, there's no helping it. It's not like we could take Suika in anything resembling normal combat.
This Shit will never work, poison attack the shrine? Reimu will expect it and we will get blown out of the sky for sure. Either way, Sky, Wood or Stairs, it’s all the same, we are fucked anyway, why not take as many of them with us to hell as possible.
Instead of killing them all, we can just turn them completely delirious and catatonic using an incapacitating chemical weapon, like BZ gas.
If we wave in BZ in, they won't notice it, or see where it's coming from.
"BZ is odorless. It is stable in most solvents, with a half-life of three to four weeks in moist air; even heat-producing munitions can disperse it. It is extremely persistent in soil and water and on most surfaces... Because BZ is odorless and nonirritating, and because clinical effects are not seen until after a latent period of 30 minutes to 24 hours, exposure could occur without the knowledge of casualties."
In 24 hours, we blow the gas away, bind and just take Reimu and maybe Alice and Marisa prisoner. They'll be out for quite a while.
"Once effects appear, their duration is typically 72 to 96 hours and are dose-dependent. Following an ICt50 of BZ, severe effects may last 36 hours, but mild effects may persist for additional days... "The clinical course from BZ poisoning can be divided into the following four stages: "1. Onset or induction (zero to four hours after exposure), characterized by parasympathetic blockade and mild CNS effects. "2. Second phase (4 to 20 hours after exposure), characterized by stupor with ataxia and hyperthermia. "3. Third phase (20 to 96 hours after exposure), in which full-blown delirium is seen but often fluctuates from moment to moment. "4. Fourth phase, or resolution, characterized by paranoia, deep sleep, reawakening, crawling or climbing automatisms, and eventual reorientation."
With this, the possibilities of retributional torture and information extraction are endless!
>>32766 Reimu expects us to attack the shrine? She probably thinks we're running for our pathetic lives and hiding as best we can. And I doubt any of her pals would tolerate keeping watch on the night sky day after day because some human and his rag-tag band might show up.
>>32769 I like this plan, especially because it nulls out the penalty that comes from attacking from the woods. Even if they notice shits going bad nearby in the woods it'll be too late, they'll already be exposed.
This could be the start of a great business venture. We keep Reimu restrained and helpless, and then charge money for the various residents of Gensokyo to come and do whatever the hell they want to her.
It's like a cross between the stocks and a dunking booth, except with less falling into a vat of water and more things getting jammed into Reimu's various orifices.
>>32802 Well thought out plans don't survive first contact.
No plan doesn't get us past first contact.
The only way to win is not to play.
Also, waaaay back when we were in Eientei I wrote a tactical plan for beating Reimu, Marisa and Alice. We didn't even have Aya or Medicine back then, we should've gone for an all out assault using each team member to alternatively drive or block the enemy.
Of course it runs the risk of loosing team mates but to be honest I would rather we tried swarming them under and attacking from all sides than trying to win with only two special moves.
Remember, there's no a single person in our party that Reimu hasn't beaten in one on one combat.
Numbers=/=victory. We stand a much better chance against the titans of the shrine with a more manageable group than with a whole party. If something goes wrong we can issue orders and adapt faster with just Aya and Medicine.
Effective communication between two groups can be done by using Reisen as a sub commander.
The thing is Reimu IS the titan piece in this battle, she the SPESS MAHRENS in this case and we're a mix between the Tau (anon is some kind of ethereal) and the Tyrinids. (kekeke zurg rush) We can only win by overwhelming her and out maneuvering her, she has overwhelming strength and the home team advantage we have numbers and surprise.
If we take Momizi as a body guard and our eyes we can keep out of the battle in order to orchestrate it, momizi observes and we command Reisen. Plus we're the king piece, largely ineffective in combat but the game ends when we fall.
Now the whole smoke them out with poison is a good start, but it probably won't win on it's own. Still it's a good first strike, follow it up with Rumia's moe darkness blob we send Wriggle in to harass them with insects. They break the darkness and run right into Lunatic Eyes, put them under and we win.
Failing that we get Reisen out of there with Cirno providing covering fire and a quick response rescue from Aya. After that we have to keep them in a pitched "hit and run" battle trying to wear them down if we expect to win, otherwise we have to pull out.
We would've stood a better chance if we sent Tewi and Cirno out to gather the rabbits and the faeries, faeries would make excellent shock troops even if Reimu kills thousands of the all the time they'll be able to provide cover etc.
Also, I am fully aware of the different conflicting game analogies I used in this.
>>32819 If we're the Tau then it's just a simple matter of Move-Shoot-Moving our way to victory. The Tyrinid comparison is quite accurate, since half our group consists of flesh eating monsters.
Considering Cirno's recent behaviour I don't think we could count on her for any real tactical use. A nice side effect of having small numbers is that it's far easier to organize a retreat, and bringing the fastest in Gensoukyo with us just makes a tactical retreat an even more viable option. Our best bet for victory is a lightning raid, we go in, burn the shrine to the ground, poison everyone in there and get the fuck out until the poison takes effect and our opponents are all half dead. We should forget about rescuing Eirin, she's MIA and we're not going in to rescue POWs, we need to end this war here an now, before there are anymore victims.