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4604 No. 4604
Gents.

It is I. No need to say anything more. It's been more than a year, and I seriously doubt this place is as alive as I remember it, but I need a breather. A pastime, if you will. I need to kill 3 weeks off, and I'm bloody well willing to blow it off writing touhou fanfiction for you. I suppose you've all cooled off by now, and I really do hope so, because I don't really care for anyone calling me out on my old shite. I was in puberty, no excuse.

Now, I offer you, as I said, a pastime. Realistic Mode, no latent superpowers, no clingy macguffins, no deus ex machina. Gensokyo as it was meant to be, tough and rough. Three weeks, no guarantees. Pretty much Hardcore difficulty, as hardcore as Touhou fanfiction may be. I'm lacking incentive for my own works, and I'm preparing for a drastic shift in lifestyle. This advent time may belong to you, my friends, so long as you will it.

If you're feeling like calling me out on old times' buffoonery, feel free to. Just, please, do sage your post so that the thread goes places out of sight instead of the top of the board. It will be most likely ignored, so you may as well save your fingertips the trouble.

I've two pleads. First, tell me if the board is even still alive. I'm way too wobbly to research that now. Second, please do inform me which section is the most inactive (taking previous query into consideration). Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
YAF

No. 4605
No. Not with your old trip/name, you aren\'t. Too many old wounds and drama with that name alone. If you\'re going to turn a new leaf, then recreate it completely. Don\'t give us any clue that it\'s you. The moment you even use that name again just means you\'re here to piss us off, and not in the amusing way.

That said, I will make it my personal quest to shit up your threads forever if you don\'t take this warning seriously.

Also, posting in the general board like this is very poor taste. You should have just started a story quietly in a way we wouldn\'t recognize.
No. 4606
The site is alive, but it has been showing its age. The old "classic" writers are slowly dropping off, and new authors are filling their shoes. There doesn't appear to be a lack of readers, but inter-board cohesion seems to be down so it feels like the population is smaller. Story quality has pretty much stayed the same, but update speed is waaaay down. If you can manage daily updates these days you're somewhere between Aya-speed and Youmusword-speed.

/shrine/ is hurting pretty badly right now; there might only be one decently-active story left there. /underground/ and /youkai/ aren't doing much better either; they've got maybe two or three.

I wasn't around to see your past transgressions, Mr. YAF, so I have no disrespect for you, and I've supported you in my own way from the moment I first talked with you on IRC. If you're willing to rise again and write, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, which is something far too few of you Anons are willing to do.

May you be judged fairly, by the quality of your words. Godspeed, and good luck.
No. 4607
>>4605

Remember the last author who switched names to avoid their reputation? Now imagine that with a negative reputation instead.

No, friend, no. Let's not make this situation any more volatile than it already is.

That said, I have no aversion to another YAF story. If your dedication to avoiding "old times' buffoonery" is genuine, you've got yourself a reader.

Even if your stay is brief, welcome back.
No. 4608
I really don't care about you. Never did, and it's unlikely I ever will. Your stories were more miss than hit with me and the only thing I can certifiably say I admired was how much you wrote and how quickly.

If you want to write, go ahead. Do it however you want and wherever you want. But don't expect anyone to care about who you are and why you're doing it. If you're going to write only for 3 weeks or whatever, my advice is don't bother. I have to question the motivation and drive of someone who can't even lurk long enough to answer his queries.
No. 4609
Hey, you're back.

If you want to write, I'll read it. Three weeks is better than some stories on here.
No. 4610
YAF COME BACK TO IRC WE MISS YOU

Well by we I mean pretty much just me and Mari but yeah
No. 4611
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4611
If you write something along the lines of TS then welcome the fuck back.
No. 4612
>>4606
it's his fault that /shrine/ is in such a sorry state, being "YAF's corner" is a stigma only rivaled by /eientei/'s possible one of being Teruyo's corner.

>Now, I offer you, as I said, a pastime. Realistic Mode, no latent superpowers, no clingy macguffins, no deus ex machina. Gensokyo as it was meant to be, tough and rough. Three weeks, no guarantees. Pretty much Hardcore difficulty, as hardcore as Touhou fanfiction may be. I'm lacking incentive for my own works, and I'm preparing for a drastic shift in lifestyle. This advent time may belong to you, my friends, so long as you will it.

Translation: Weak lead, bad end minefield.

If you're only sticking around for three weeks, I must agree with >>4608 about not bothering to write again. I have no time for an already doomed story.
No. 4613
>Translation: Weak lead, bad end minefield.

I see nothing wrong with this.
No. 4614
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4614
If you write some crazy shit like the first or 2nd run of TS i might actually read it.
Reimu route only of course.
No. 4615
>needs to kill three weeks
>wants to spend it writing fanfiction

What? Don't have any friends?
No. 4616
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4616
why don't you just start writing and see if anyone wants to read it, instead of announcing your grand return like some prince who was off on a crusade

>This advent time may belong to you, my friends, so long as you will it.
although this kind of shit is giving me low hopes that your ego is any smaller or your prose any less purple
No. 4617
>>4612

You're kidding, right?

The problem with /shrine/ is that there's not enough writers there. In part, because it's pretty damn hard to write a story there.
No. 4618
YAF, I'll take you any way you come.

Even if you start up your old shit again, I'll still love you while I tell you to fuck off. Welcome back.
No. 4619
>>4614
Don't worry, he'll railroad it if need be, just like last time.
No. 4620
>>4613
Even though such things were the cause of "timid voting"? Oh well, more reason for me to avoid it like the plague. Some kinds of retro are endearing, some are not.

>>4614
A Reimu route story would be nice, though three weeks is not enough time to finish such a story. He'd need two or three times Classic HY writing speed.

>>4617
More like folks don't care to try writing a story there, preferring places like the SDM or The forest of magic. The three main characters of shrine, two could easily be put into other areas, leaving Reimu, whom isn't highly thought of often.

About /sdm/ and /forest/, Scorn and HY left a positive legacy in those sections. The same cannot be said of YAF and /shrine/. Until such a negative legacy is reversed or someone busts out a mind blowing story (coughpaperboycough), /shrine/ will always struggle.

Another problem is that most /shrine/ worthy stories are put in /th/ as a ploy to get more readers. Any more would get me started on the whole /th/ cycle.
No. 4621
Man, Haters' gonna hate.

I liked the first TS and the fragments of later stuff I read here and there. If you're going to go back to the Fog after the 3 weeks then it's kind of a waste of my attention-span, but whatever

>>4606
I updated 4 times yesterday night/today morning, what does that make me?
No. 4622
>I updated 4 times yesterday night/today morning, what does that make me?
I didn't even know you existed 3 days ago.
No. 4623
>>4622
I don't really exist, my presence is caused by the effects of Alcohol
No. 4624
YES YOU ARE BACK

It better be you. Tripcode and story, please.
No. 4625
Go for it. This'll be fun.

I'll try not to make you rage

too much
No. 4626
Come on you beautiful bastard, write already. You were one of the really good people here, despite all your shit, or perhaps because of it. Whatever, just do it already.
No. 4627
How about that AAA?
No. 4628
>>4621
1/4 Classic HY speed (he did 16 updates in one day once)

But the bright side of posting here is that more people know of your return.

The only thing I remotely hold against YAF is how he damn near killed /shrine/. I couldn't give a rat's ass other than that.
No. 4630
>>4604
>I don't really care for anyone calling me out on my old shite

Then I hope you won't mind if I say that you should stop being such an attention whore.

Where other writers have been able to return from the dead and just get into the business of writing, you have to announce your (possible) return and preface it by saying that we're not really important to you; it's just that you "need to kill 3 weeks off" and are looking for "a pasttime," which is why you can lower yourself to "blow it off writing touhou fanfiction"—as long as we give you "incentive" first.

You haven't learned anything, YAF.

Until you have the humility to recognize and reconcile that the reason for your failures and the reason why you were driven from the site is your personality—not “puberty,” not any other excuse that conveniently absolves you of responsibility for your actions—you really shouldn’t be writing here. You’ll just end up repeating the same follies as last time if you do.
No. 4631
Sage for biggest troll thread in the boards.

Not amuse
No. 4632
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4632
>you have to announce your (possible) return and preface it by saying that we're not really important to you; it's just that you "need to kill 3 weeks off" and are looking for "a pasttime," which is why you can lower yourself to "blow it off writing touhou fanfiction"—as long as we give you "incentive" first.

This. A hund- no a thousand times this. So goddamn true that it hurts even me. Whoever you are, i thank you for putting what i thought in words.
No. 4633
Bloody Hell, YAF. You're as much of an arrogant, insufferable prick as ever. As long as you still cop that attitude, you can go right ahead and cram your offer up your ass. Kindly get the fuck out.

You were a crummy writer anyway.
No. 4634
You're an arrogant dick and a horrible excuse for a troll, and you should feel bad.

Let's see if your writing is any better and then we can decide if we want you around.
No. 4635
I see you really haven't changed, YAF. You're just as big an attention whore as ever.

>Where other writers have been able to return from the dead and just get into the business of writing, you have to announce your (possible) return and preface it by saying that we're not really important to you; it's just that you "need to kill 3 weeks off" and are looking for "a pasttime," which is why you can lower yourself to "blow it off writing touhou fanfiction"—as long as we give you "incentive" first.

Good lord, thirded. This is a cancer that kills art!
No. 4636
I like the bandwagon after >>4630
No. 4637
Are any of you people supporting YAF actually reading what he said?

I mean, really fucking reading it? You aren't picking up on anything at all, if you did.

>I need a breather. A pastime, if you will. I need to kill 3 weeks off, and I'm bloody well willing to blow it off writing touhou fanfiction for you.
He needs to waste some time, so he deigns to spend it on us. Gosh, I feel so unworthy!

>I suppose you've all cooled off by now,
Implying it was we got unreasonably upset with him, which is utter bullshit.

>and I really do hope so, because I don't really care for anyone calling me out on my old shite.
"I don't want to be held accountable for the crap I pulled."

>I was in puberty, no excuse.
...But that is an excuse you just made. Also, I'm pretty certain that biologically, he passed out of puberty a while ago. I think he was referring to (im)maturity.

>If you're feeling like calling me out on old times' buffoonery, feel free to. Just, please, do sage your post so that the thread goes places out of sight instead of the top of the board.
"If you want to call me out on my bullshit, just do it as quietly and unobtrusively as possible."

>It will be most likely ignored, so you may as well save your fingertips the trouble.
"I steadfastly refuse to own up to all the crap I dealt out to you people, let alone apologize for, resolve to change, or hell, even to merely admit that WHAT I DID WAS STUPID AND/OR WRONG."

>I've two pleads. First, tell me if the board is even still alive. I'm way too wobbly to research that now.
"I don't care enough to bother doing it myself."

>Second, please do inform me which section is the most inactive (taking previous query into consideration). Thanks in advance.
Same as above.

Listen, people. I know a lot of you have fond memories of TS1. I loved it too, I really did. I even liked the susbsequent runs. I liked AAA, too, and even kind of liked CoMN.

Just about everything after that sucked (except for All together At Once, which I maintain was good because Vodka had a hand in it.)

YAF is an arrogant prick, refuses to change his ways, and will never alter his behaviors in any way. He cannot and will not admit to doing something wrong, and his fondness for memes and bizarre vocabulary are just irritating.

I have had it with YAF, and I want no more of him.

I know you are all remembering the good times he gave us, but those times are a long ways in the past, and they will never be coming back to us.

YAF is not the same writer now as the YAF that wrote TS1. Wishing hard for this not to be the case won't change a single thing.

I'm sorry to you all, but it's time to face the facts.
No. 4638
>>4637
>I need a breather. A pastime, if you will. I need to kill 3 weeks off, and I'm bloody well willing to blow it off writing touhou fanfiction for you.
>He needs to waste some time, so he deigns to spend it on us. Gosh, I feel so unworthy!

Um... isn't that kind of what we all do? Writers, at least. This place is a hobby. It's something to do for fun for chrissake.
No. 4639
>I have had it with YAF, and I want no more of him.

However, I do. And so do a few others, according to this thread.

If you are going to write, YAF, go write. The boards are still "active", although a bit slower than they used to be. And, it's been said already, but /shrine/ is probably one of the most dead.
No. 4640
>>4638
>Um... isn't that kind of what we all do?

It is, but only YAF feels the need to announce it, to make sure that all of us know that he is doing everyone a great service by condescending to write for us.
No. 4641
>>4638
He is doing something else than Kira or HY did when they came back again to write something.

He basically said that he would lower himself to write here again on a whim, but only for 3 weeks because he can't bother himself to waste any more time than that on our unworthy selfs. You can't be more arrogant than that.

That is something that no other writer who came back said or did.
No. 4642
I personally don't care one fucking bit how good or bad he is/was or what he has done to piss off so many people. If he want's to write a fucking story, I say let him write a fucking story, goddamn.
It may be terrible as shit, or hell, maybe not, I'd still read it.
No. 4643
My newfriend curiosity is piqued.
What's the deal with this YAF?
No. 4644
>>4643

He wrote really fancy sounding words where normal ones would do.

He wrote a lot.

His quality dipped as time went.

He didn't exactly take criticism well.

He was/is rather egotistical.

His ego apparently imploded or something eventually and caused some problems or something, I don't know, I wasn't around at the time.
No. 4645
>>4642
But that is the problem. He NEVER left it with just writing a story, he always caused shitstorms and faggotry.
And people don't just change like that.

Just think about it. If he really wanted to write something he would just have just done it with a new name. And no one would have known it is him.
No. 4646
I'll go check /shrine/ every now and then.
No. 4647
>>4646
Hells yes
No. 4648
>>4647
I'm not YAF btw
No. 4649
>>4644

His endless bitching, and the stream of shitstorms that he started are what convinced Ranmilia to leave the boards.

He purposely trolled other writers, and their readers, disrupting the flow of other stories.

He trolled his own fucking readers a few times.

I, for one, would sooner be pleased to see him jump off a bridge than come back and start more shit. The fact that he acts like a self-absorbed brat of a child is just the icing on the cake. Let him keep his shit to himself.
No. 4650
>>4649
So that was the reason the story was deleted, I wondered about that.


To be honest, I wasn't completely here when he started making trouble, so I wouldn't care much if you really have changed your ways. Still, proclaming this using YAF, instead of becoming Anon and just asking about it, just seems seems like a certain word I can't put my tongue on (Egotistical?).
No. 4651
BAH

YAF's more than welcome to -try- and troll my threads, more activity is always interesting in my eyes.

Also, lulz @ everyone who play his game.
No. 4652
I really don't care, but this is mostly because your trolling was always so obvious that I never even bothered to read anything but story posts from you. I've said it before and I've said it again, the community here is almost as easy to troll as /v/. But even /v/ is capable of learning.

If you want to write, fine, go ahead. If you decide to keep writing after three weeks, fine, and if you stop I'm okay with that too. But I also think that as you have proven incapable of learning just why there were shitstorms wherever you went, that if you return to your earlier trolling, you should be banned without any chance of repeal, this time. I seriously doubt that the powers that be of THP are any less tired of you than the readers.
No. 4653
>>4652
>I seriously doubt that the powers that be of THP are any less tired of you than the readers.
HY likes YAF and his bullshit.
No. 4654
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4654
>>4651
>everyone who play his game
>>4652
>the community here is almost as easy to troll as /v/
Do you people really buy his trolling schtick? He's an attention whore. He's loud and irritating and people tell him to fuck off. Getting people to dislike you as a person is not difficult and it's not "trolling".
No. 4655
>>4653

I feel like this should surprise me, but really, it doesn't.
No. 4656
>>4654

Trolling and attention whoring are not mutually exclusive. They're linked, if anything.
No. 4657
>>4654
Still isn't getting people to rant at his posts, still acknowledging him and feeding the attention whore? I'm just asking, not trying to make a statement or anything.
No. 4658
>>4649
>His endless bitching, and the stream of shitstorms that he started are what convinced Ranmilia to leave the boards.

You are vastly, vastly oversimplifying the situation.

>He purposely trolled other writers, and their readers, disrupting the flow of other stories.

I guess I'll have to take your word on that one.

>He trolled his own fucking readers a few times.

And that's unusual?

>I, for one, would sooner be pleased to see him jump off a bridge than come back and start more shit. The fact that he acts like a self-absorbed brat of a child is just the icing on the cake. Let him keep his shit to himself.

All over some touhou fanfiction!
No. 4659
Well, planned or not, he's just gotten a metric shitton of attention. And I think we all know that's what he was looking for more than anything else.
No. 4660
Start a thread already you nigger.
No. 4661
I think it probably would have just been better to start a new story without 'permission' as if all of your past actions had never happened. "Hey. For the next three weeks, fuck all of you". I do believe we've told you this - many - times before, but this isn't a blog.

>>4636
I do, too. I like how it just feels like the same guy either agreeing with himself or throwing out more insults and butthurting through the rest of this thread.

>>4621
FFFFFFF- We need a fucking bulletin board or something announcing returns. I haven't checked Eientei in a long while.
No. 4662
>All over some touhou fanfiction!
touhou fanfiction is serious business
No. 4663
>>4661
you should check it more often, Serial ATA writes a nice story and a couple of new stories are looking promising.
No. 4664
>>4648
When did I imply you were?

That said, another story would be good, as long as its enjoyable.
No. 4667
Fuck off.
No. 4668
>>4658
>You are vastly, vastly oversimplifying the situation.

I don't know if Ran said it in #MiG or just said it when I was saying bye to him, but he did say he left because he couldn't tolerate a board that "defends somebody like YAF".
No. 4669
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4669
OH GOD WHAT IS THIS I'M LEAVING FOREVER BECAUSE YOU ALL BLOW CHUNKS ;_________;
No. 4671
>>4668
So it's basically

Write a shit first run and you'll get hated forever

Write a decent story and a sizable group will love you no matter how much of a faggot you are?
No. 4672
YAF, as long as you've gotten rid of that nasty habit of deciding the whole route for the story in advance and chastising us for choosing any choice (which you provide, by the way) other what you want, then sign me up.

I hope you've brought your A game, because there have been some damn good stories since your time, and frankly I wonder if you are up to snuff. Consider it a challenge.
No. 4673
>>4671

...Pretty much, actually. Not every time but most of it.
No. 4674
If he does make a thread, count me in when shitting up any thread that has his names or trips. Just so you newbies know, this guy was much much much worse than Wiseman or J to the E.

And that was when he was having a good day.
No. 4675
>>4674

Worse than J to the E?

...Holy shit.
No. 4676
>>4675
He just greatly exaggerated.
YAF is nowhere near such a shit writer like J to the E.
Just read the story and get your own opinion.
http://www.sentrygun.com/touhou/threads/shrine_TS_01-21.zip
No. 4677
As a person, he is worse. You have no idea.
No. 4678
It's sad when a thread about YAF has more posts than either the author appreciation or recommendation threads.
No. 4679
>>4675

He's no where near that bad. His stuff was often actually enjoyable.
No. 4680
>>4679
Before or later his breaking point? Since it's often said his writing went downhill afterwards, though due to no doubt thread deletion, most of the evidence is gone.
No. 4681
>>4680

Eh, he was never as bad as J->E. He tended to sound anywere from 'Nasu' to 'Nasu parody' to 'something else entirely'. Heavy on the purple prose and dialog, but never beyond the bounds of sanity. His vocabulary was a bit too large for his own good.
No. 4682
>>4680
He was a good writer with a poor ego, but at least he kept his crap to his topics. If it was brought up elsewhere, then that's someone else's doing. You can't really compare him to Wiseman or J to the E. He wasn't some overzealous otaku, he didn't think he was God, didn't whine in IRC about people hating him, and he didn't look like a retard with every god damn post.

As for any poor writing on his part, it did fall when anon had had enough of his shit and stopped voting sensibly when he left it completely up to write-in. A lot of what you heard could just be misdirected anger. Anything else was par for the course, if not from a sleepy or drunken stupor.

What a lot of people consider poor writing is not just the fault of the writer, though they certainly could have taken steps to prevent it. Trying to always make your voters happy will eventually blow up on you. TS3(4?) was a good example of that - voting for Gilgamesh to be the protagonist when he never watched FSN. This is why Taisa's GH is now an image dump. YAF was the opposite extreme when he broke down, though still nowhere near J to the E where he'd fuck you over at every turn.

I, as a reader, most certainly did not help when he was reaching his boiling point. I made a lot of non-serious, and down right shit votes in For Starters, and many of them got bandwagoned.
No. 4683
>>4682
Quite a valiant defense, but I wonder... could you do likewise for Teruyo? If not, all it does is prove the point right about people being far more forgiving of people with successful runs than not.

It took Anon a while for forgive Kira for the Snow End and despite whatever HY does, Anon (and myself) are VERY quick to forgive him.